Do 45 rpm 12" LPs really sound better than 33 rpm?


Increasingly, one can buy 12-inch 45 rpm LPs. Theoretically, they provide a wider dynamic and frequency range, but I come across a strange effect... Yes, the bass strings seem to be tightened stronger, but in general ... Imagine you have two cars with a power of 250 hp, but one is equipped with an honest atmospheric V6 or V8, and the second has 2 liters turbo. 

Tell me, is it just my impression? Or maybe I need to change the cartridge or settings (for example, impedance) of the phono preamp?


mishan
@orpheus10 I did not checked all your posts here, but no matter what you’re talking about, you always refer to the jukeboxes, i remember that from the cartridge thread, now again you’re about jukeboxes, lol

I like original vintage 45s (7s) from the ’50s, ’60s, 70’s and even early ’80s. Some of them are superb, some of them are very bad souding even in mint- condition. It’s all depends on the engineering, mastering, pressing, since the key word about 45s (7’ inchers) is "independent label", major lables could make a proper mastering, but many independent labels recorded their artist (often themselfs) in a garage and pressed only 500 copies.

Why do you think all 45s made for jukeboxes ? I have no idea what do you mean, those records made for all record players with adapter (middle). You don’t need jukebox to play them.

If you like jukeboxes that’s fine. Jukebox is only one way to play them, but normal people could not afford a jukebox back in the days. They could buy a record player and 45s.

45s are not always better than LPs, there are many bad LPs and bad 45s too.

I think "12 inch single is better then "7 inch single in theory.

Also i’m pretty sure it make sense to use special aligment for "7 inch records, because the music is closer to the spindle and the record is smaller.

But anyway the OP is asking about LPs recorded on 45 rpm, not about "7 icnhers !

To him i would say that 45 rpm LP is NOT awalys better, just because it's on 45 

Chakster, "Music Direct" offers Charles Mingus "Mingus Ah Um" as a 180g 45RPM 2 LP set; other than a different diameter, are we still talking about 45 RPM records?
I also have noticed a lot of DJ dance single mixes are 33 rpm. Maybe for better bass or so the DJ doesn't have work as hard. Just me thinking a slower turning record would be easier to produce a bass signal. Please don't knock me. I'm no engineering wit.

Chakster, all record players played both 45, and 33; the same 45 that was on the jukebox; it's just that jukeboxes produced state of the art sound while most record players were below "midfi"; have you ever seen a 1 box record player.

Since jukeboxes relate to another time that you and younger enthusiast can not relate to, I will refrain from mentioning them; will that make you comfortable?

But jukeboxes relate to 45's that sound better than 33 1/3 LP's, and I hope to find some in mint condition.
Yes, we’re

But this is a NEW trend to offer re-issues on double LPs recorded on 45s. First of all those records are re-issues, not the originals.

The original LP is on 33 1/3 rpm

I can’t remember any LPs from the golden era pressed that way and they are all fine, some of them are better than those modern 45 rpm re-issues on LPs.

What is definitelly better is a classic 12’inch singles with one track per side, from the golden era. From the fresh mastertape to the stamper, deep grooves. Those singles are fantastic in terms of fidelity on regular vinyl (not 180g).

When modern labels like Analogue Productions working on a re-issues it’s all about restoration, since the tapes are old, so they want to make the best possible to re-issue 40 years old music today. In this case they need all those vignin vinyl formula, 45 rpm pressing, 200g vinyl, half speed mastering etc. The price for their re-issues also very high.

P.S. I have thousands of rare original 45s and LPs, i don’t care about re-issues much, but i have some of those from Analogue Productions. Most of the modern re-issues on 7 inch 45s are crap comapred to the originals. 

I think it's not correct to say that 45 rpm is better, it depends on each particular record and the source (digital or analog master, cutting engineer etc).