Curious what people think is the best "value" high end speaker (~5K to 15K)


I am on a long search for speakers and just curious what people think is the best value both new or used in speakers ranging from around $5000 to $15000? I have a set of Paradigm S8's (V1) and love them but looking for another set for another set in a different listening area (25 x 20?, maybe larger).  I love the full sound of JBL's and looking for something in that range (it also helps that JBL's seem to hold their value better than most, which will be a consideration). The only drawback to JBL is footprint.  I prefer a smaller footprint which is why after reading I hope to listen to several B&W 800 series but open to suggestions across the board.  used Watt Puppies? Revels?  I am curious about peoples experience with McIntosh XR100's. 
gene3x
I own a bunch of high end stuff all of which has been acquired used- All of it is in my office and runs constantly 7 days a week. My everyday set up is tidal to a oppo ha1 Dac to a moon 350p pre into a Bryson 14b and out to an aging pair of nautilus 802s. Pryor to the 8o2s I ran cdm9nts for about 2 years- the B&W stuff just seems to deliver for me- I have been thinking of getting some 8o2d2’s but honestly, my somewhat beat up N802s sound great. When I’m feeling mellow I switch gears to some sonus Cremona auditors and vac tubes but since I’m primarily rock, the b&w’s get the most air time
@markalarsen 

You're very right. People don't think much about the thousands of man-hours that go into developing a product. That not cheap. It's more than just creating the product design. It's designing and producing the tooling and jigs and quality systems. When it's done right you can produce an excellent product at low unit cost, recoup the development cost, and make a tidy profit to develop new products and grow the company. 
Westbam73,

What exactly about a speaker requires such finite considerations concerning the room? I suppose if you have some really unusual space you'd need to go to those lengths, but listening rooms really only fall into 3 or so categories; small, average, and large. Almost all ceilings are 8 or 9 feet. Almost all walls are sheet rock on white pine studs. 

I can promise you the drivers and crossovers Focal and B&W are using are far better tailored to their implementation than anything a DIY'er is building from Part Express or Madisound. Does the mid-range driver in a Focal Kanta No.3 cost that much more to build than the one in my 936? Probably a couple bucks more, at most. It probably didn't even cost as much to develop since the bulk of the tooling and technology was already created for the 900 series. 

I'm not stupid. I can build a good amp and sort it out with fairly basic equipment. I can't build a speaker and prove it does what I intend it to like a small army of engineers can. Maybe if I could buy a workshop full of woodworking tools, an AP and calibrated mics, find a huge quiet field, and really hone my woodworking skills I could build something that gets close to my Focal 936's, but it would take years and a lot more money than those speakers cost. 
I heard the Kanta 3 at a local dealers and very nearly bought it myself I was so impressed with its musicality and clarity, that even handled my 70's rock! That's a first for any focal speaker before it in its price.