My feeling of the flaw with A/B testing is the test is exercising a totally different part of the brain than the part that can notice fine differences in music. In A/B the part being called in to use is the conscious judgemental rational frontal lobes. When we listen to music, relaxed and not under stress to ’choose’ different areas of the brain are most active.
I would think some people could ’LEARN’ how to be able to do it well, in an A/B test situation. but not everyone. I would bet Professional Classical music conductors would naturally excel at it.
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Power cables are all about EMI. |
nonoise4,189 posts12-19-2018 11:36am
The reason I never replied to @prof was that I went to sleep after my last post. The urgent and provocative nature of his reply belies what seems to be a basic need to argue, however skillfully, to no apparent end. The man loves to hear himself talk.
Waking up to the provocations and like was entertaining, to say the (really) least.
His analogies are tangential at best, as they are off the subject and designed to lull lessor discerning folk into conflating an obvious conclusion with one not really relatable. Nice tactic.
It’s like listening to a broken record. Take placebo. This has been hashed to death and yet it rears it’s stupid head. When it comes to audio, anyone can be fooled by a cheap parlor trick, as it’s done in the short term. Myriad variables are introduced in a A/B test that are simply not present when listening as a pleasure.
After being fooled in a A/B test, one simply goes back to their system and in short order, they can recognize the differences that fooled them after immersing themselves in a listening session. The placebo excuse assumes that we all go on listening the wrong way. A simply silly notion.
To assume that we are so fallible, broken and easily fooled all day, every day, and we are not to trust our senses, begs the notion as to why we’re all still alive, having not blown up, shocked, or killed ourselves in some silly manner due to placebo, or some other phenomenon.
All the best,
Nonoise And that is the reason many members no longer post on threads like this one anymore. They are tired of hearing the same naysayers BS. The OP last sentence of his posted message. If you don’t think power cables matter at all, please refrain from derailing the conversation with antagonism. There a time and place for that but not in this thread please. The OP was clear he could hear differences. He was just asking why? He wasn’t asking for an intervention to change his mind.... Do any of you non believers think you have changed the minds of the believers? Have you changed the mind of the OP? I wish Agon would adopt a mission statement similar to that of the Cable Asylum. The Cable Asylum is for those who have decided that audio cables make a sonic difference. If you do not feel that audio cables do sound different, then do not post here. Posts that state that audio cables sound the same, or that all one needs is zip cord and/or dimestore coax, may be deleted, re-directed or other actions taken at the sole discretion of the moderators or the Bored. If you post more than one such post, you may be banned from the Cable Asylum. For you non believes start your own thread about cables in another Agon forum. Heck, maybe Agon could give you a forum with a mission state for non believers only. If you believe cables can sound different post elsewhere on an Agon forum. Example, The Cable Forum. . |
markalarsen345 posts12-19-2018 12:56pm Power cables are all about EMI. >>>Not sure how they can be “all about EMI” since they are generally shielded from EMI. Am I missing something? 😳 If you’re thinking of EMI coming in through the wall outlet no power cord can prevent that. Shielding is not equivalent to absorption. A reasonable approach to deciding what is important for power cords would be to list all their desired attributes/characteristics and arrange them by priority and cost. It’s not rocket science. 🚀 |
markalarsen345 posts12-19-2018 11:56am
Power cables are all about EMI. Not entirely. There are other factors that go into the making of power cables. The type of male and female connectors used. Type of metal used. Plating? Type of plating used. How well the female IEC connectors grips the male inlet connector of the equipment. Wire gauge size. Stranded wire or solid core conductors. Type of Insulation dialectic material used. The geometry of how the cable is made. How is the equipment grounding conductor incorporated in the design of the cable? The type and method of the shielding used in the cable. |
