Is there an actual difference between AB and A/AB ?


Almost all high end linear audiophile power amps which are not pure Class A sell some story about being Class A up until a certain power output, then switching to AB.

Excuse me, but isn't this actually AB to start with?

The whole point of AB is that you run with some bias current to prevent complete transistor shut off at the crossover frequency. This whole "our amp is Class A up until n watts" seems like hype.

Am I wrong?

Best,
E
erik_squires
I don't think it can be called hype when the product of the claims is measurable and audible differences in sound quality. Practically all push-pull class A amps are going to transition to AB at some point, so does that mean push-pull class A amp are just a myth? They're just high bias class AB amps? That sounds like silliness. And what about Pass X series amps that operate single ended class A up to a point? That's obviously more complicated than a simple push-pull amp with high bias, both electronically and sonically. 
Are you saying that amps like Pass Labs do not operate in class A up to a certain wattage or are you just saying that those amps should be called AB not A/AB?

The latter. I mean, the whole point of AB is to avoid the crossover distortion of B, without being as power hungry as A.

You can even dial the distortion up and down with an AB amp. More bias = less distortion = more power at idle.

We used to just call this Class AB.
Lately however we call it "Class A until x watts, then AB"


Best,
E


You're not wrong, but what's your point?  Knowing how many class A watts an amp can provide is useful info.
You're not wrong, but what's your point? Knowing how many class A watts an amp can provide is useful info.

Hey @onhwy61 - I'm not really making a point, I'm fine with a manufacturer making a claim  to Class A at low power if accurate.


Really I am asking for help fixing a disconnect in my own mind and knowledge. Ages ago, when I took a course in the subject, you had A, or B or A/B.


This new fangled combined labeling of audio amps as A/AB is rather new to me, I just wanted to know if it involved actual engineering differences from AB.

Best,
E

Kosst: you can have push/pull Class A if the devices operate their 360 degrees of duty cycle out of phase of one another.