What I would want to know, if I was in the market for changing out wall outlets in order to change the tonal balance of my audio system, is what is the science behind ANY of the claims made by SR? From what I can see on the SR website as regards these outlets, bald statements are made describing the "sound" that your system will have, with absolutely no rationale to support any of the claims, no scientifically plausible "mechanism". I am not categorically against tweaks. I do believe that power cords, interconnects, speaker cables and other more surprising elements of an audio system can affect sound, but if I am going to spend $200 on a wall outlet (or a similar amount on a fuse), I need to know more. (Of course, with the fuses, we are told there is some sort of quantum effect; that makes me feel a whole lot better....not.) I have no axe to grind. Tell me what point I am missing. If it's merely that the buyer installs the wall outlet and then hears a difference, that's not good science. The observer is a reader of internet threads like this one, which creates a certain expectation of the results, and he or she has paid good money for the new part; the bias is built in. (And by the way, there is some danger associated with amateur electricians messing with wall outlets.)
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lewm I am not categorically against tweaks. I do believe that power cords, interconnects, speaker cables and other more surprising elements of an audio system can affect sound,Where is the scientific proof to your belief? Please produce any Links to any White papers/articles where actual testing, measurements, prove why ICs, speaker cables, and power cords can make a difference. Maybe you missed this resent running Agon thread. "Why Power Cables Affect Sound" https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/why-power-cables-affect-sound . |
uberwaltz4,457 posts01-17-2019 9:12am @ uberwaltz lewm6,657 posts01-17-2019 12:36am This was the reasoning behind my response to what lewm said in his post. IF lewm believes ICs, speaker cables, and power cords, can make a difference then why does he want scientific proof outlets can make a difference? I assume he has more than likely experimented with ICs, and speaker cables in his audio system and found they do make a difference to his ears. Just a guest maybe after market power cords as well. Has he experiment with wall power receptacle outlets? Just a guess on my part, no. He is not going to find any definitive scientific proof why a wall outlet makes a difference. Just like he will not find any definitive scientific proof ICs, speaker cables, and power cords make a difference. What he will find is credible theory and a whole lot of guys, and gals, that say they hear differences. Disclaimer: I do not have any opinions one way or the other with regards to the SR Blue outlet. I do not have any personal listening experiences with the outlet. I do know that an AC power receptacle can have an impact on the sound of an audio system. How? Because I took the time and experimented for myself. YMMV. Jim |
For me, my decision to purchase the blue outlet was not based upon the claims of Synergistic Research or science either. That’s me - I’m not all about measurements, etc. I tend to look for commonalities in user reviews. When I finally purchase something, it is my own experience and opinion, however, that will trump all others. And, it’s whether it works in my system or not. It could work fine in someone else’s system and not in mine and the reverse is probably true as well. I’m also not looking for an outlet to specifically change the tonality of my system. For me, it needs to make it sound subjectively (to me) better. In the end, that could be detail, transparency, and it could possibly be tonality too. The point is that I’m not looking for anything in particular going in, just wanting a better result one way or another. The mention of expectation bias is probably true for some folks. However, I don’t think it applies to everyone when evaluating audio/video products. I’m too picky and too concerned about the money I spend to have the expectation bias. In fact, my bias often goes the other way - the product is going to have to prove itself, because I can’t believe it is that good. The blue outlet, for example, has been up and down for me over the last week or two. Once it settles in, I’ll make up my mind on it. Dave |
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