CD Got Absolutely Crushed By Vinyl

A $50 Pioneer DV-05 modified with six capacitors and a higher end A/C cable will beat your Technics turntable.  Just ask Oregonpapa.  My friend modifies a 21 year old DVD player with dual lasers with just some cap to improve the power supply and some other caps (about $110 in parts).  Rivals my EAR Acute which cost $6000.  I also have a $22K analog front end.  It sounds great as well.  Sure, I hated CDs until the mid-90s due to either bad CD mastering (Japan could really do great jazz CD mastering in the mid-80s even) and generally bad CD players.  I've heard many $1000-$3000 CD players that sound very musical and enjoyable, unlike the 80s and most 90s players.

I strongly doubt any real deejays use vinyl anymore, they have not for 30 years. rap “dj”s only use one record on each turntable, which is just for time code to drive serato to play out digital rap files.

@sleepwalker65

Real DJs play vinyl (always). What you call "rap dj" is actually a hip-hop djing. Rapper is the one with a microphone, not with a turntable. The music is actually hip-hop. Rap is just a heavy rhymes over a hip-hop beat. Not all the DJs are bad, there are some incredible djs with amazing record collections and immaculate musical taste (jazz, soul, funk, soundtracks of the 60s and 70s on rare original vinyl is a part of the dj culture too). Actually the history of DJing is quite interesting, but people don’t know much about it. This is the best book about history of djing which cover everything from early radio disc-jockeys to a modern day. Personally i don’t like electronic music, but the DJing began way before electronic music was born. So if you will read about Jazz and R’n’B of the 50s, Soul Music of the 60s, Disco of the 70s you will realize what is DJing is all about.

Digital cr*p and electornic music (or heavy rap which you don’t like i believe) is just one side of the DJing in this crazy world nowadays, but as many aspects of the modern life and "show business" this is not the best side of the phenomenon called djing.

For example David Mancuso, the owner of The Loft in NYC, back in the 70s was an audiophile and record collector who became a deejay. This guy played records with Koetsu cartridges on M.Cotter turntables with Klipsch speakers at his private parties at The Loft. Here is a book about it. When we look at the dj booth of the Studio 54 in the 70s we will see Thorens turntables. Guys at Paradase Garage in the late 70s were pretty serious about sound system, i can see Thorens turntables with the Black Widow tonearms and Stanton cartridges on the pictures from that club. It’s a part of the history of djing.

BUT You can see what’s going on in The Spiritland in London today, i think you will be surprised about sound system made for djs/collectors at this venue.

You can also check Potato Head in Hong Kong to see how good could be the place where djs/collectors playin their music. I think it’s pretty impressive.

You see, not all the djs/collectors are "rap djs and clowns" as you call them. Same about audiophiles, some of them listening to absolutely horrible pop music on the most expensive systems. Some of them even prefer a CDs or digital copy to an original vinyl.

Dear @tablejockey :  "  It isn't just that the sample rate is too low, ..."

"  The other problem is that with digital recording, aside from the harassment and the complication, there's the problem of not having dedicated buttons, you have to pushing a button and recording a track and pushing another button and recording another track. Looking at the screen, moving your hand, looking at the mouse and watching it. When I'm using the 24 track machine, I never look at it. I actually punch in and out with my foot. I've been doing it for 24 years. "

The real problem there is that that interview came form 2004 !, 14 years ago ! !  ( Boston band Tom leader and recorder. ).

Obviously that he can't knew that today ADC/DAC works at 32/768.

So you link is totally useless for say the least.

R.

Dear @fleschler : You are rigth and for the ignorance of some gentlemans is totally useless to post to them because no one of them that showed here their very low knowledge levels ( in the OP specific subject. )  are not willing not to learn but just " can't read " .
Seems to me that not even make any single effort to ask their self: why if I am wrong?. No way.

Btw, yesterday I listened some CDs vs the same LPs recordings ( others CDs  has no LP mates. ). One of them was the original soundtrack of the Flashdance movie. I had many many years that I did not lisented it and is a 1981 recording ( btw, great picture. ) and is just stunning and better way better than its LP mate but was not the only that outperformed its LP mates: several makes the same like the Foreigner 4 or The Wall or Gladiator or , or, or, Glory, Blade Runner, The Mission,Geisha, The Day After Tomorrow, or After Hours. Any one of us must listen The Thin Red Line: outstanding

Again, the issue in this thread and almost any thread is the true and real knowledge levels/first hand experiences and skills of each one of us.

In that Universe that I posted 70% of us are in the mediocrity of that Universe and even at lower levels ( 15% ) and at least me already made that long learning trip/tour to stay nearer to that broader/line between the top of the mediocrity to arrive at that very top end where I think only a few ( maybe less than that 15% of the Universe. ). I know at least two gentlemans at the top end and like me a few more that are in the line of the top end. Yes, I'm still learning from every one evrey where.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

@chakster , I make a distinction between real deejays, by using the term “deejay” and rap-“dj”s that are often referred to as “djs”. The real deejays are people who play music from media at radio stations and live events without scratching and mixing. They play music, not rap/hip-hop. They aren’t really interested in sound quality as much as getting the music out to the listeners, so in that they are similar. Part of the sub-culture of rap-“dj”s is about modifying the original sound, and while they use SL-1200mk2 turntables most often, they aren’t being used to transcribe anything but time code discs to drive serato-based systems to play out highly compressed semi-original content. It’s as far apart from music as you can get. And in the process, these ham-handed orangutans destroy millions of SL-1200mk2 turntables every year.