Feedback on Classic Audio Reproductions T-5

Is there an issue with having built-in subs versus having speakers without the built in subs if the performance is similar?

I don't think there's an issue necessarily, BUT, separate subs allow you to strategically place them to take advantage of different rooms while not having an effect on the ability to optimize the imaging abilities of the main speakers. Multiple subs, as in the four in his Swarm Bass System, tends to blend better and be a smoother integration - that according to Duke and to my own ears. I didn't read the thread; are those active or passive subs that those speakers have in them?

If you go to RMAF you'll probably be able to hear many of these options.
Jax2 (Reviews | Threads | Answers)

I agree. There's no shortcut to shopping for speakers like these being discussed. If you have the time frame to wait until October, it's extremely beneficial to attend RMAF with a short list of speaker candidates. It seems like an expensive hassle (at least it did to me), but I promise you it's worthwhile.

Multiple subs, as in the four in his Swarm Bass System, tends to blend better and be a smoother integration...
Jax2 (Reviews | Threads | Answers)

I understand that point. To be more specific, I was addressing Clio09's comments regarding floor space and the Jazz Modules. The Planetarium Betas don't appear to take up more floor space due to their built-in subs. It wasn't clear to me from Clio09's comments if he was aware of the built-in subwoofer model, or if perhaps he was aware and he had a reason that they weren't a suitable alternative to the Jazz Module.

Tvad, that's an interesting point about the Horning's bass, and I am going to RMAF. I'll ask Jeff with High Water if he plans to bring them.

Duke's Planetarium model w/built-in subs looks intriguing, and he could use that price point. Not sure if he'll have them at RMAF since it's a prototype that he may not add to his line.

The CAR speakers also use the TAD drivers. Is the problem with the 1101 driver or with the TAD line?

Tvad, I was mistakenly thinking of the other speakers in the Planetarium series that required the Swarm sub system. Now that I have referenced the link I see the speakers you referenced were originally a one off made as a special order for a customer, but are now part of the product line.

Since I've never heard them I can't comment. The down firing subs seem like an interesting idea overall and a more than suitable alternative to the Swarm. Personally, I have an aversion to subs, not just due to space constraints but I don't place a heavy emphasis on deep bass. Having originally been a long time Spendor user the mid-range is what attracts me to a speaker. In the Jazz Module case the 32hz rating and adjustable bass port provides enough bass for me.