Can the Harbeth 40.1's boggie ?????


I am not looking for ear shattering volume - but everything I have read ( and no, where I live I cannot listen to them )but I am considering them. But, can they play some rock and roll and get out of their own way ???? Reviewers and owners have noted that they sound great at low volume levels - and they have an '' organic natural sound '' - that's great but can they play Lynard Skynard, some Allman Brothers and god forbid some Grateful Dead that well - like they advertise -sounds like real music ??? I also listen to Eva Cassidy, The Eagles, Jackson Browne, Pat Methany, JJ Cale and most of all The Beatles ....and why do see so many of them for sale ??? Ummmmm.....
garebear
Of course, everything about Harbeth must sound good on the Harbeth forum. There is no room for negative thoughts or criticism as they practice active moderation.

As much as I love the Harbeth sound, let's admit it. They do not have the most extended highs and some of the detail in the high frequencies are smoothed out. This largely contributed to the low listening fatigue of Harbeth speakers but took away some of the edge and excitement. It largely depends on the genre of music one is listening to.

The lossy thin-walled cabinet of the Harbeth is designed to resonate along with the music whilst most speaker manufacturers try to make their speakers as inert as possible to minimize unwanted cabinet resonance. Cabinet vibrations are some sort of a coloration but Harbeth promote this philosophy which is the archetype of the BBC heritage.

As for fast vs slow. It is interesting some may express the inappropriate use of these terms in describing sound or speakers on the Harbeth forum since in their mind they do not mean anything. Again, when someone states that the speaker(or music) is fast or slow, it will relate to the ability of the speaker or system to highlight or reproduce the transient attack and dynamic swings in music. I believe most criticism on Harbeth is they fall short in rock or dynamic music, sounding slow when compared to dynamic speakers due to their inherent design characteristics. The bass will not be as quick, tight or agile with the cabinet vibrations. For music with lots of thumping bass lines, the Harbeth may exhibit some bass boom as the bass plods along with the music, due to resonance build-up within the cabinet. Coupled with the smoothed out treble, this may have given the impression that the Harbeths sound slow or can't boogie to some people.

The 40.1s are IMO the most polite speaker in the Harbeth line, followed by the SHL5. The C7ES3s are the most dynamic(in other words, quickest and has the best speed) owing much to the smaller box apart from the 2nd generation Radial driver, hence the highest boogie factor.
I don't own Harbeth's but I've heard them. I'm a huge live music fan, my brother in law plays in a band has has filled in for big names on the quitar such as Pat Travers. I find Harbeth's to do an amazing job of reproducing music. I think a lot of people on this web site get caught up on the sound of their first car stereo and use that sound as a basis. I also find that practically no one on this forum actually goes out and listens to live music, so they're only basing their opinions on previously pre recorded musical reproduction though very bassy boxes. You can say all you want about specs etc, but they have nothing to do with music reproduction. It's a huge waste of time and money. You'll notice that you will never see a musician post on this forum. That's because they listen to music. They don't interrogate it.
Tvad,

Good to finally read something from you, I was getting worried that you might have some health issue. I always enjoy your input.
Hi Donjr....bold statement but beg to differ. Make it a point to listen to live performances as often as I can. Swan Lake at the Hermitage in St. Petersburg a week ago, before that a jazz quartet at a jazz bar in Melbourne and before that the sound check of a professional system in an open field for indie and rock performances later that night. A live band was used for the test.Incredible sound....exhilarating. And before that....I forget.....perhaps one of the many gigs my brother was playing in.

Harbeth make some good speakers which are easy to listen to but do they reproduce the sound of a live performance? in my view....far from it. I have heard quite a few Harbeth setups and none have yet come anywhere close to reproducing one. In fact, I try not to listen to my system after a live performance as it pales, pales, pales in comparison.

Well one could say, perhaps its the equipment upfront but that would run counter to what they tell me that with a Harbeth, any reasonably decent amp will do.

Just my view.