Why the obsession with the lowest octave

I see the value in having clean bass down to 20hz, and I
agree that much of the value comes from the sense of venue
that those very low frequencies can provide, and if could
have it without tradeoffs that would be great, but there are
tradeoffs indeed and Larryi articulated them very well. It
took me a long time to break away from the obsession and
accept that in many ways the Merlin VSMs with a brick wall
at 28hz and a sharp drop off at 32hz were more musically
satisfying that my previous speakers that were +/-3db at
20Hz. I would take that extra bass if I would not loose that
Merlin midrange and resolution and the ability to run with a
relatively low-power OTL, but I have not found a speaker
like that. The benefits of deep bass are real, but so are
the liabilities that come along with speakers that can do
the deep bass thing. Perhaps with some price-no-object gear
you can have it all, but at relatively real world prices I
would seek to compromise some of that deep bass for other
values. The fact that I listen to acoustic jazz 90% of the
time I'm sure has something to do with that perspective.

The reason most hifi home audio gear has almost always been spec'ed from 20hz-20000khz is because that covers the useful range in the audio spectrum that people can generally hear.

Individual hearing ability varies though. Many cannot hear this full range and some may be able to hear even more, but these are fairly rare and extreme outlier cases.

Many recordings have little or no content towards the extremes. Some good ones do though.

Put the common limits of human ears and the recordings played together and the cases where a low end of consequence exists, can be heard and the listener actually cares are relatively few.

If you care, in general you will pay a premium of some sort generally to enable it in a home system in a quality manner that does not negatively impact all the other good stuff.

Onhwy61,

I think Mapman's quote re:T-Rex was illustrative. My point was that, if you hear an elephant or hippo in the 'hood, it would be a good idea to go the other way - as these animals will cause damage to your person. Rhinos, not so much.

If "predator" was too narrow a noun, mea culpa. In any event, I was just speculating on the origins of a phenomenon that many report.

Marty

i believe the lower the frequencies go in a loudspeaker, providing it does it cleanly w/out distortion, adds body and foundation to all music. frequencies have fundamentals that are lower then the frequency itself.
you mentioned your speakers go down to 28 htz, at how many db's down? distortion and sound pressure levels play a role in low frequencies. for example: my speakers with a 2.5 watt electric input will generate 100db sound pressure level at 4 ft. second harmonic distortion at 40htz 0.5%.

A friend plays the pipe organ, I often attend his practice sessions. No reproduction even come close to the power of such an instrument, however-the organ produces enormous amounts of noise. There is the air rushing through the pipes, the sounds of the mechanical opening and closing of swell doors,not to mention the opening and closing of valves, the operation of compressors.....
An orchestra on stage is also the venue of extraneous noises. At a concert we ignore these noises, yet they can make up an important part of the experience we remember. Until recent years I did not realize how many of the noises were recorded and reproducible on modern equipment. Sometimes they add a great deal to the sense of realism- sometimes not. Those of us fortunate enough to not have to worry about our neighbors hearing our systems have a real advantage in this area.