How to place speakers at the optimum height


OK Agoners, How do you determine and place the speakers at the optimum height? If it's book shelves than it's pretty easy, you just buy an adjustable speakers stand and try it out. But what if you have floor standers? Are they already design to be at the optimum height? I don't think it would work for everyone since there are 6'5 guys and 5'6 guys so ears level are different. Is there any "audiophiles" lives in the vicinity of 95138? I like to check out some other people system to compare to mine and see what I'm missing if any. I'm pretty new to this high cost hobby so I would appreciate it if someone could show me their system. Thanks.
min888
You can also read John Atkinson's measurements in Stereophile, provided the speaker you're interested in has been reviewed there. He measures and discusses the vertical dispersion of speakers and usually gives you hints on optimum listening height (unless it's not critical).

You could also listen to the speakers while squatting (sorry!) and standing to try to focus in on the height that sounds best.
-Bob
Your nose is on the same plane/level as your ears ... use your nose as a guide ... it's easier to see than your ears

DISCLOSER .. I am not telling you where to put your nose only to use it as a guide or reference point relative to tweeter
Make sure that the lasers are off when you are adjusting them while seated in the listening position.
I also think that as far as floor standers go they average about 3 to 5 feet. It is absolutely true the further you are from the speaker the vertical dispersion becomes less critical but using an 8 foot cardas triangle your head should be at the apex of the equilateral triangle so toe in is important. Remember it is your system and your preference so just adjust to your taste starting with those principles. Many speakers including my own have excellent lateral dispersion and don't require a lot of toe in. You will see, or hear, as the case may be.
Thanks for all of the response. I tried to raise the speakers a little higher and the result is that the singer seems to be singing from the stage, you know like from the concert and you are in the first row. Maybe I will try to sit way back in the room and see what happens. But isn't sitting way back would put you out of the optimum distance for stereo? When you place your speakers do you aim to have the singer right in front of you or sounds slightly above you?
I like 18-24" above the speaker. Not front row, more like 5th or 6th row. It gives the music a chance to bloom.