Marantz SA-1 holding up well agains next gen.?

711smilin-

Yes, the thread is about Marantz units. I have one. MrChips has several apparently. Baranyi has a couple. Jes45 has one. You have none to my knowledge and have never owned a TRL modded one either. I never claimed the TRL modded unit was better-just that some people thought it compared favorably or even surpassed the SA1 in part or full in their opinion. Just opinions-that is what makes this hobby fun.

And who mentioned Alex and APL? Not sure why you brought him up but since you did.....

Just for the record:
Here is a guy apparently taking a $2800 hit on an APL unit:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtltran&1137550757

Here is a guy taking a $2100 loss on an APL unit:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1137795125

Here is a guy taking a $2000 bath on another APL unit:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1140142052

Like I said, the initial investor in a modded unit usually will not recoup that back fully. It doesn't matter who the modder is and really reflects little on the modder. I am sure all of the above units are quite excellent.

There is an odd thing about audiophiles and modded units. If they bought the initial modded unit it was worth every penny. If they go to buy a used modded unit-they will not pay nearly the same price-no matter how good. It is almost like the price drop on new gear. You open the box and it is now worth 30% less. Crazy hobby.

Digital sources especially are the worst investment in Audio. My advice- Buy used and buy modded units used if possible.

As for Alex's workload-sounds like he needs to hire some help. He is working too hard.

And also for the record- no one has taken up TRL on their Money Back offer yet to my knowledge.

I am also glad you have found happiness after trying out 40 digital units in two years. I am never sure as to what to make of it when you make that claim other than you are quite
passionate in your search.

Finally, yes I am a very funny guy.

Have a nice holiday Steve.

Steve, I get a toothache just thinking about having 40 digital sources over the course of 2 years. How can one get a grip on anything when changing that often? Most people who want the best feel it's better to start with something that's killer and be done with it, instead of going through endless updates and flavor of the week. But hey, maybe that's just me. All I'm doing is enjoying the music, grinning ear to ear :-)

Happy Hanukkah, Steve.

Brian

Hi Smilin
Would you mind giving us differences between APL 3910 and ModWright 3910 please ? MW preamp and Examplar ?
Thanks
lolo

lolo,

Email me your #, and I will call you. This thread is not related.

Steve

Let's not distort facts, guys.

There is a long list of APL units for sale here on Audiogon

There are three used APL modified players listed for sale: an outdated EMM/Philips SACD 1000, a Macintosh digital player that is not a standard APL mod, and an Esoteric DV-50. This is a long list?

The EMM Philips SACD 1000 transport is an outdated unit known to be prone to failure due to faulty chips from Philips. It is not currently offered by EMM Labs nor is the mod currently offered by APL. Taken together, these facts explain the bargain basement price.

The same applies to the MAC digital player...non-standard, not current, and therefore less demand.

The APL Esoteric modified DV-50 is being discounted 20%. Most of us try to buy used gear at 40%-50% discount or more, and we consider this normal. A 20% discount is "taking a bath"? A 20% discount on a used digital source seems rather fair and reasonable on Audiogon.

I understand you're trying to make a point about modified digital players losing value, but let's not distort facts to make the case.