How come there is no thread on the RealityCheck?

Your argument has always hinged on the idea that technology outside audio is cheaper and equal.

This is partly, true, yes. Since the Plextor duplicators are built to duplicate CDs and DVDs, I don't consider them outside of audio. In fact, audio and video duplication is their purpose. If we are speaking of high end audio as separate from professional audio (which the Plextors are designed for, as is demonstrated by the machines being built to duplicate dozens of discs at a time), then to me, this is semantics. If George is claiming his RealityCheck CD system is a higher echelon than pro duplication systems, then yes, I'd like to know what I'm paying for beyond the opinion of those who consider his duplication system to be better.

There are plenty of folks who pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to modifiers who won't disclose what the modification entails, and simply tell their customers to "Trust me". I'd rather pay a modifier who will tell me what goes into the modification, and what my dollars are buying.

So, there are options for both types of audiophiles...those who want to know the nuts and bolts, and those who don't care as long as it results in perceived better sound.

I suppose I'd have been less aggressive with the RealityCheck CD system if Mr. Louis had just said, "Try it", and left it at that, without making up nonsensical explanations for how the thing works.

Good listening, Tbg.

This debate will go on and on, no one BUT George will really know. However I spoke with him on the phone yesterday (about something else) and again asked what he does to his duplicators. He would not answer, would not even say they are proprietary, is this admission of him NOT doing anything? His lawyer side showed through pretty strong, IMO. Again, I will say for the record, George let slip, to 3 of his close friends that he did NOTHING, nada, to these machines and in fact did indeed have some drop shipped. Believe this or not, this is what I've been told. George has even bought back a unit or two from those he feels would be detrimental if they had put them on Audiogon for sale. Yes I sold my own unit, soon will buy one of the "off the shelve units" and I have 2 guys within 45 minutes that still have George’s unit so we shall have a listen soon.

Tvad - I think I understand, and I certainly respect what you had to say in your post beginning "Gentlemen and ladies..." I do not see the posts as "attacks" per se, which is why I did not use that word. Nor do I "...support that which cannot, or will not, be verified". I take no position on the RC business, as I would need to hear both the RC and the cheaper duplicator results for myself, no matter what George Louis says. I agree wholeheartedly with you with regard to the value of questions and discussion. I just don't know how anyone could answer the very reasonable question "...if there is another burner containing identical Plextor drives that produces the same changes." That is, without listening to both. So far, to my knowledge, George Louis is (presumably) the only one who has done that.

I do see SOME of the posts on Audiogon to be primarily about denigrating individuals, sometimes thinly veiled, and sometimes not. In some cases, in fact, I see nothing about equipment or music in them at all. Then there are those individuals who clearly now have a pattern of being almost always negative, and/or "baiting" other people (please understand I am not talking about you! :) It appears that a couple of the recent posts which moved me to ask the question I did of the board (and were examples of what I am speaking of) have been removed, so I cannot refer you to them to read. What I said yesterday to the board had absolutely nothing at all to do with George Louis and his responsibilities.

Sksos, I for one will be very interested in what you find, but also concerned about your prior notions.

One of his friends and I are in much contact, and he says that George has many, many various hard drives with many mods lying around as well as many cleaning solutions. This might well suggest, as this guy thinks, that George has invested much R&D.

Norm, I'm not saying he hasn’t invested the time and research to find the best drives possible. I am saying that the drives are "standard" drives with NO modifications.
When we do the comparison, it will be with at least 2 other audiophiles, one will be a reviewer, will give an honest assessment. If George’s sound better, so be it. I have no vested interest who’s sounds better.