Upgrade rainmakers to hawks,clues,tekton or fritz?


I have a pair of totem rainmakers and a NAD 747 AV receiver. At the time that I bought the receiver I thought I would go surround sound. Now I have decided to just focus on 2 channel and be content with stereo for movies. I will probably sell both the receiver and the rainmakers to finance this. Right now I have heard and like totem Hawks, Sjofn Clue(heard this at the audio show this weekend pretty impressive for $999), I am also interested, but have not heard, Tekton Lore-s and Fritz Grove. The amp will probably depend on the speaker. For the Tektons I am thinking red wine audio for the others maybe Naim 5i. My budget is around $3000. I am fine with used equipment. I listen to mostly rock but have recently been listening to Hawaiian slack key guitar. Has anyone heard the tektons or Groves and rainmakers so that they can make a comparison? Any Opinions?
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Hello Jon,

I seriously doubt that the Totem Hawks, although decent, will be on the same page with the Tekton Lore-S when it comes to overall balance and purity of tone.

I have not heard the Sjofn Clue speakers, but took a look at their specs which threw up a couple of flags for me. One thing is that they are claiming that a woofer with a 4-inch diaphragm size and a tiny enclosure can play down to 28Hz (-3dB) with 87dB/watt efficiency. I find this spec highly doubtful even if room gain is factored into it. Also, it has a crossover to the tweeter at 2300Hz, which is in a very sensitive band of human hearing...

So considering these things and considering that the Lore-S has an 8-inch woofer, more cabinet volume, a much higher crossover point (at least 5kHz) and the Lore-S is 7dB more efficient (meaning it will work MUCH better with great sounding lower power amps), I'd still put my money on the Lore-S.

I have also had the Fritz Rev 5 speakers in my room for a few months and although I liked them quite a bit, they are not quite as transparent as the Lore-S or as extended in the high frequencies. Also their midbass was a tad overly ripe... at least in my room, which was not always a good thing if you know what I mean.
Eslaudio,
I have narrowed down my choices to naim XS and hawks or Red wine audio signature 15 and tekton lore-s. I have been getting great advice from Plato but I thought I would ask you again as you have had both in your system. I went to RWA and listen to the RWA/Teketon combo. There were a lot of things that I liked about it. On some music it sounded like you were there - really live. Tonally it was amazing especially with the vocals and the RWA amp was really great. I never really took note of distortion before until it was totally gone. However, on some cds I found it lacking in the excitement that I have heard with the totems and perhaps a little too smooth sounding. It could have been the room as the room that I have heard the totems in is much smaller. But I have also read a review on the part time audiophile site where he described the tekton's as less than forgiving with average recordings - "On the Grove, the high-res re-releases of the Smashing Pumpkins Gish and Siamese Dream are a wonderfully dynamic and exhilarating listen. On the Tekton, they’re a little tedious." - from part time audiophile. I was wondering if you had the same experience as most of what I listen to is pop and indie pop/rock and these bands are sometimes recorded under not the most stellar conditions.
Thanks.
Heard the "Clue" yet? I'm dieing to hear about them despite what Plato sayes about their questionable specs. Very interesting design approach with their close to wall mounting and all.