The CD player is dead.......


I am still waiting for someone to explain why a cd player is superior to storing music on a hard drive and going to a dac. Probably because you all know it's not.

Every cd player has a dac. I'll repeat that. Every cd player has a dac. So if you can store the ones and zeros on a hard drive and use error correction JUST ONCE and then go to a high end dac, isn't that better than relying on a cd player's "on the fly" jitter correction every time you play a song? Not to mention the convenience of having hundreds of albums at your fingertips via an itouch remote.

If cd player sales drop, then will cd sales drop as well, making less music available to rip to a hard drive?
Maybe, but there's the internet to give us all the selection we've been missing. Has anyone been in a Barnes and Noble or Borders lately? The music section has shown shrinkage worse than George Costanza! This is an obvious sign of things to come.....

People still embracing cd players are the "comb over" equivalent of bald men. They're trying to hold on to something that isn't there and they know will ultimately vanish one day.

I say sell your cd players and embrace the future of things to come. Don't do the digital "comb over".
devilboy

@Almarg

a nice side benefit of my present preference for a one-box player is that I don't have to concern myself with jitter issues.

Are you saying cd players don't suffer from jitter just because they are cd players?
Now today for example, it was very nice listening to Mozart piano sonatas and then adding the Beethoven Pastoral Symphony while sitting in my chair in my bigger listening room and not having to get up and go into the next room to change things.

I use the VisualMR program on a Windows PDA with a wireless connection to control my Rokus (one on each of two systems on different floors that connect to a shared music server laptop to select songs or entire albums from any room in the house.

Now that is sweet and something I could never have even dreamed of before!
I would find the jukebox like convenience features of a music server less valuable I think if I listened only to classical music...
Mapman (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
What, you've never heard of the Shostakovich shuffle?

:)
Are you saying cd players don't suffer from jitter just because they are cd players?
A well designed cd player will have jitter issues that lie somewhere between minimal and none, because the relevant clocks are generated internally and are only transmitted internally, over very short distances.

A two-box approach, whether the interface is usb, s/pdif, or aes/ebu, faces the fundamental issue that data is transmitted to the dac synchronously to a clock that is generated in the source component, not the dac. That creates huge opportunities for jitter to be introduced, due to impedance mismatches, cable issues, noise issues, clock recovery and synchronization issues, and a host of other possible ways for things to go wrong. Certainly those issues can be successfully overcome, but its nice to not have to worry about them, or to invest time and money in optimizing them.

See for example this excellent Ayre white paper, for an overview of some of the complexities involved in adequately dealing with the jitter that can be introduced in a usb-to-dac interface:

http://www.ayre.com/pdf/Ayre_USB_DAC_White_Paper.pdf

Regards,
-- Al