Schroeder vs. Triplanar VII Sonic Differences

This thread, like so many, has gotten off course. I have owned both the Triplanar and the Schroeder arms. The Triplanar was an early version and the Schroeder was a special version for the Loricraft/Garrard 501 turntable.
I think, however, that the characteristics of the arms endure.

The Triplanar was easy to set up and to adjust VTA. It is very smooth but not as dynamic as the Schroeder. The Schroeder is designed for rigidity and is somewhat difficult to set up. The key variable is the gap between the magnets. VTA is difficult to change reliably.

I don't remember which cartridges I used with the Triplanar. On the Schroeder I used the Allearts MC2 and the Decca Jubilee. Although it was very difficult to optimize the Decca, when I did, I loved the sound.

I now have the Shindo Labs/Garrard 301 which uses what was originally the 12" Ortofon spring loading arm and the Ortofon SPU cartridge. This is all designed to work together and is easy to set up, but VTA is not easily adjusted. As a system, it is the best vinyl I have owned.

Tbg,

Thanks for bringing us back on course.

Any other experiences with these tonearms. I'm very interested in how the Triplanar compared to the Schroeder-2 and DPS in the infamous shootout.

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Sirspeedy,
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The LP you heard when visiting is called “Pearl Diver” by David Roth. The song writing, singing, guitar work and recording are all spectacular as you well recall.
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You can order it directly online from the record company “Stockfisch” of Germany.
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Their website is: www.stockfisch-records.de
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or you can go directly to the English side of their Catalogue by going to :
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http://www.stockfisch-records.de/stckff/sf_stockfisch_e.html.
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and scroll down till you see his LP and CD (two separate listings, be careful that you order the LP). The LP is a Direct Metal Master Recording. They also have a CD version is quite good as well, but the LP is spectacular.
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For the rest of you, this is a great audiophile recording with some real joyful acoustic music. David Roth (not David Lee), has an incredible voice and plays the guitar beautifully. I think it is one of those LP’s that everyone would love to have in their collection regardless of their musical preferences.
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Rgds,
Larry
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TBG....when you say it is difficult to set up the VTA on the Schroder, how do you mean? I know the Tri-Planer has easy VTA adjustments but doesn't the Reference Schroder also have easy VTA? Do you know how to set the VTA on the DPS (or Model 2)? I also believe the Tri-Planer has VTA adjustments on the fly...does the Schroder Reference do that also?
My VPI 10.5 has VTA on the fly adjustment...I was considering a VPI 12.6 with an HR-X but I read (heard)so many negatives (or non endorsements) about the arm and TT that I started to consider the Schroder and Tr-Planer.

Last question to Tgb (and all) after a Schroder is set up...not by me cause I'm all thumbs....is is set? Or do you need to check the settings (VTA/VTF etc) occasionally?

Rick (RWD)

Rwd, remember that I did not have the Reference. It was a Reference arm tube but had smaller magnets and had a simple unscrew and raise or lower VTA adjustment. I think this is the same for the DPS and Model 2.

I do not think the Schroeder wanders, but the Decca had to have the space between the magnets very carefully adjusted.

I think 180 and 200 gram records require raising the VTA on all arms, so yes, you have to change the VTA but once locked down , it stays.