Graham Phantom vs Triplaner


Wondering about the sonic traits of both these arms compared to each other.

- which one has deeper bass,
- which one has the warmer (relative) balance
- which one is compatible with more cartridges
- which one has the better more organic midrange
- which one has the greater treble detail.
- which one plays music better ( yes this is a more subjective question ).
- which one goes better with say the TW acoustic raven TT.
downunder
But what about the gold trim, Syntax? :-)

Should we also pull the Vector into the discussion about fluid damping?

As far as I know, the TP is the only one of these arms that can actually play very well with no damping fluid. But I wouldn't extend that as an offer as to why one design may be perceived as better than another. In the end, each is a sum of its parts.
Dan

What you are getting at is that the arm tube alone does not seem to dampen enough. Which I agree with and was really my point.

Clearly the phantom fluid level, triplanar fluid or not, and triplanar trough or not make differences.

I will say that while the phantom fluid does improve the balance it does not seem to obscure detail.

Question is how much of the detail in music is obscured by the mass of the arm?
Well it is probably a lot more complicated than all of this!!!

I will stop asking questions and "enjoy the music" as Raul says.

Last Friday night's listening session was quite amazing!!!!
Grasshopper! You have plucked the pebble from my palm! :-):-)

I agree. It's complicated and I'd rather just listen. I just picked up Jorma's River of Time but haven't had the chance to light up my system for more than a week. I'm shaking like a big dose of Starbucks.