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Technics SL1200MK2 Cartridge Discussion

Hi,

I'd like to have a thread on cartridges that work with the Technics SL1200MK series tables.

I want to buy a Technics SL1210MK2 (the new black version from Musicians Friend) and need a cartridge recommendation. I am using a Musical Fidelity A308CR preamp that has MM/MC capability. My amps are Bryston 7B ST's and I have a pair of B&W Signature 800's on the way to replace my N801's. The MF Preamp is rolled off on top and the system is very listenable for long lengths of time. I'd describe it as detailed, but not too bright.

I really want to try the Technics table as it is relaible and inexpensive ($400 shipped or less for a used table if I go the ebay route). Please do not try to talk me into a different table. I had a VPI Scout and Dynavector 20x (High output) that I sold because I just wasn't using it. I'd like to keep this cheap so that I have decent TT available when and if I want to use it.

What can you recommed for a cart? I'd like to keep $160 to $200 as a max and stay lower if possible. Here is what I am considering:

Denon 103 (not the R)
Denon 110
Denon 160

Audio Technica 440 MLa

Shure M97xe

I do not know what carts work well with the Technics tonearm. I know that it is light and some threads recommend a Sumiko headshell for the Denons. What do I need to know here before buying a table and cart.

Thanks.
tigerwoodkhorns
tigerwoodkhorns OP
130 posts
 
You'll notice the Audiogon analog Big Guns never get involved in these Technics discussion threads...

I wish they would, but I don't read anything into it. Likely they have not given a serious audition to the Technics.

Be careful what you wish for. This thread has 80 replies and good information is flowing. Go read some threads on high end gear. Most fall apart about half way through and just turn into an argument where each side needs to show the other how superior they are (which offers little information on the equipment).

I'm pretty sure that the Big Guns would explain that you are not hearing what you think that you are hearing, the Technics is junk because it is a "DJ table" (without any other explanation or technical info) and that you will not hear a decent table until you spend "at least $3000 or more" (and that is from a thread that I read before buying mine).
maril555
618 posts
 
Thank you all guys for your input. Now I feel even more confident putting Shelter 501 MK II on mine.
Still, I didn't get any answers regarding a "right" protractor to use with Technics arm.
I understand there will be significant difference b/w overhang, using Technics supplied tool (that's what Kevin
of KAB using himself), and some aftermarket protractors.
tvad
9,467 posts
 
If you scroll to the bottom of this Vinyl Engine Protractor page you will find a protractor specifically for the Technics table.

I have downloaded it, but it needs to be magnified to fit the scale printed on the protractor, and it does not fit on 8.5"x11" paper (obviously...as no protractor does). So, I suppose it's a cut and paste deal, unless you can take it to Kinkos and have them print it out on large, heavier card stock. A poster above uses this protractor. Maybe he'll offer more guidance.

You are correct that the Technics overhang tool and another protractor will produce physically different mountings. I have no explanation for why this is so, except that the mounting distance on the protractors is probably longer because most arms have a longer mounting distance than the Technics' 215mm (Regas are 223mm). This is a wild guess on my part.

I presently use a Benz Micro Ace, which was aligned with the two point protractor provided with the HiFi News Test LP.
tvad
9,467 posts
 
My next question regarding printing of the Technics protractor is how does one punch the spindle hole perfectly centered, and just the right size? Do you leave it up to a clerk at Kinkos? Or is it not that crucial?
solman989
42 posts
 
Still, I didn't get any answers regarding a "right" protractor to use with Technics arm.
I understand there will be significant difference b/w overhang, using Technics supplied tool (that's what Kevin
of KAB using himself), and some aftermarket protractors.

I am using the vinylengine.com Baerwald arc protractor and feel that its the easiest to use if you want to use the Baerwald alignment method. Overhang is set using the arc which is far easier and faster than going back and forth between two grids on a universal protractor. After I get everything in place, I use the Turntable Basics mirrored protractor to double-check and everything is usually lined up on the first try.
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