vpi scoutmaster versus technics unbiased


Anyone heard both the vpi scoutmaster and the technics mk5g not the earlier versions and preferably with tonerarm dampen kit to tell me whether there is big difference in sonics. Lets assume no sds or clamp with vpi but newer tonearm. phonostage is dartzeel preamp and amp is dartzeel as well. by the way i am happy with the technics mk5g that I have but wondering whether the scoutmaster with my existing benz ace low output cartridge would have a lower noisefloor or what would the benefits necessarily be. I listen to jazz and rock. If you sneer at direct drive then at least admit it so I am aware of the bias.

thanks

mike

thanks

mike
radioheadokplayer
There is a gentleman in Los Angeles who presently lists a Scoutmaster for sale. Why not contact him a see if you go listen to his table? Maybe take your table along to compare?
Is not the entire platter part of "the direct drive" motor?, Hence, an awful lot of EMI (electro magnetic interference) swimming around that platter, Oh so close to that expensive magnetic cartridge? You decide.
One belt, motor on seperate plinth, free at last! free at last!
Tvad,

I will contact him but do not believe he has setup or used the tt so might not want to lose its unused tag for me....plus if he does not know how, i doubt he wants me to fuss about with the tonearm setup of the scoutmaster....

Lwerner,

The technics is used by djs everwhere and has sold lot more tts than even vpi.....not sure they would have a glaring emi issue with their tt they have built for 30 years!!!!

I have no tv, phone, or other devices in room other than cd player, preamp, amp, speaker
Well, another idea is to start a thread asking if anyone in LA has a
Scoutmaster you could hear.

Relying on opinions in a discussion thread is a dicey
proposition, because we all have different listening experience, priorities and
systems. Also, as an alternative, perhaps Elliot carries something in the price
range of VPI you could hear.

Similar to the Technics SL12XX tables, VPI tables have a long list of upgrades
that owners find necessary to "get the best out of the table". You have to ask
yourself if this is a road you want to travel.

You might consider looking into the offerings of Galibier if you want to get
close to the end game without endless upgrading. A Galibier Stelvio TT with
entry level arm runs about $3800. The Stelvio can also be upgraded when
time and funds allow.
I should also add if emi was a problem with this tt, it would be consistently present on albums and not varying from record to record.....

I like the technics so dont want to get on the upgrade treadmill unless the difference is big!