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vpi scoutmaster versus technics unbiased

Anyone heard both the vpi scoutmaster and the technics mk5g not the earlier versions and preferably with tonerarm dampen kit to tell me whether there is big difference in sonics. Lets assume no sds or clamp with vpi but newer tonearm. phonostage is dartzeel preamp and amp is dartzeel as well. by the way i am happy with the technics mk5g that I have but wondering whether the scoutmaster with my existing benz ace low output cartridge would have a lower noisefloor or what would the benefits necessarily be. I listen to jazz and rock. If you sneer at direct drive then at least admit it so I am aware of the bias.

thanks

mike

thanks

mike
radioheadokplayer
tvad
9,467 posts
 
If I'm not mistaken, the OP is primarily concerned with LP surface noise. If I'm wrong, then I apologize.

However, assuming surface noise is the complaint, is there a difference in surface noise between belt drive versus DD tables?

I always thought LP surface noise was mostly a product of the vinyl condition, and arm/cartridge selection, match and/or set-up. The table itself was less a factor when discussing surface noise.
stick70
64 posts
 
I've had the VPI for just under two months and have replayed several of my most favorite LP's and most have shown a signifgant improvement in LP surface noise. Again, I don't think it's 100% fair comparision due to a different cart and arm. Maybe the MC cart was just to harsh for the Technics on my system and picked up every little thing. My phono preamp is a jolida 9d.
Sorry it my first post was off the OP. Hopefully this on gets closer to the info your after.
hififile
227 posts
 
Hi Radiohead,
I have both the Sl1200 with a KAB damper, matt, rewire, and a VPI Scoutmaster stock. Both are going into an Ayre P5xe phono preamp.

Both sound excellent. Now, they have different cartridges. The Technics has an Audio-Technica AT-33PTG moving coil, and the VPI has a Dynavector 20H.

The Technics offers fantastic ease of use, very good cost to performance ratio, easy set up and easy cartridge changes (removeable headshells & easy VTA).

The VPI requires a larger investment, has better ability to track excellent cartridges.

Now, in regards to sound quality, when I have a serious listening session with a very fine LP, I always go to the VPI. It sounds better to me. Blacker backgrounds, better image, noticeable bass depth and power.

If I'm having friends over and playing their records, or having a party, I like the Technics which still sounds very, very good. The KAB modifications are superb and I highly recommend them if you select the Technics.

I hope this helps, that's just my SPIN on things!
tvad
9,467 posts
 
07-24-08: Hififile
The VPI...has better ability to track excellent
cartridges..

Will you define what you mean by this? What criteria are used to make this
determination?
radioheadokplayer OP
173 posts
 
I am going to stick with the technics tt for now and maybe one day change out but keep this for awhile since I really like it and work on getting better at cleaning my records with the vpi 16.5.

Michael
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