Yamaha PF-1000 vs Systemdek IIX ?

I have just purchased a PF-800, and have already got the Denon DL103. I know the two TT's are not identical but wonder if you could give further suggestions for upgrades to the Denon PF-800 combo.
Thanks.

The Denon PF-800 combo should sound satisfying. The simple suggestion:
- heavy center clamp / weight (300-700g) ($36 up, cost effective)

Others, costly:
- Herbie's Audio Lab's Way Excellent II ($60 up, will increase height)
- upgrade to a Denon DL103R ($300 up...)
- record ring ($350 up... not cost effective, also requires you to remove tonearm post that snaps into stand to hold arm stationary when not in use)
- replace tonearm cable. The PF-1000 has an upgraded cable compared to the PF-800. I would put an 1877 interface box ($150 plus installation) and try cables, but this will add hundreds to total costs.

So, buy a clamp and enjoy. With the hundreds saved, buy LPs.

Hi Vernonwtx.
Thank you for the help, the TT is coming with a heavy clamp so this should be a good starting point. Have you ever played with the effective mass of the tonearm/Denon, do you know what the effective mass is of the PF-1000 arm? Also any idea where to get a second headshell for the PF-800 arm? I found a link that said the ADC headshell would perhaps work FROM needledoctor
http://www.needledoctor.com/Welcome?search=adc+headshell
Turns out it is different.
Thanks again
Laurence

I had a Systemdek for years. It sounded nice but was susceptible to vibration. As an experiment I locked it down removing its floating suspension and it sounded much better. I changed the motor and it got better, I dampened the plinth underneath, changed the arm, changed rubber feet for spikes and it now was very good.

It was also no longer what the original concept was.

I eventually tired of it's home made look from the tweaks and went to a more modern table.

The best info I have is from
http://www.thevintageknob.org/YAMAHA/PF1000/PF1000.html#
which says it is a medium mass tonearm with 10mg friction (verse say 20mg for Systemdek Profile arm).

I am not sure how you would add mass. I had a Discwasher DiscTracker on the AC-2, adding +0.6g VTF and forcing counterweight halfway off to balance, but not much difference in sound.

The headshells are hard to find. One went on eBay for $5.00 not long ago (cannot believe I missed that). I finally spent 79 Euro to get one:
http://www.audioscope.net/yamaha-headshell-12-inch-p-1352.html?language=en
has grounded shield that I have not seen in brochures or manuals (which are available at Vinyl Engine). If you find a better source, please let me know.