SME V arm: dynamic VTF or straight weight


I am using an SME V arm and wonder if anyone has compared the sound using the dynamic VTF (i.e. setting the dial to 2.0g) versus setting the dial to 0.0g and simply using the counterweight and an accurate scale to set VTF at 2.0g. Is there a sonic difference and what is the theory behind one versus the other?

I would think that using the latter method moves the counterweight closer to the arm's pivot point and effects how the bearing is loaded and possibly also the moment of enertia of the arm.

I have briefly tried to hear a difference, but couldn't and plan to do a more controlled comparison. Anyone's own experience would be appreciated. Thanks.

Peter
peterayer
Hi Axel,

the resonance calculator is fine and will work fine AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT DEAL with cartridges of extra heavy weight and/or on tonearms with extra long (10 - 12" ) effective length.

Why?

Because the extra heavy body is on the extreme end of the lever and therefor its add up to effective MOVING mass is very high. To calculate this you need more than just that 3-way calculator - you would need the effective length of the tonearm too and the added mass of the cartridge taken into account in relation to its distance to the pivot/bearing point.

As for the trackability of low compliance cartridges.
Most better samples SPU's and almost all FR-7-series cartridges I have heard (about 4 dozens so far) do easily reach the 70 µm and beyond if aligned and balanced perfectly in a well-matched tonearm. The FR-7-series performs usually around 2.5 to 2.7 grams VTF. EMTs the same. The SPUs do range from anywhere between 2.5 the lowest and up to 5 for some of the older style samples.

VTF alone doesn't tell you any story about trackability. High compliance can not go with high VTF - for obvious reasons. But low compliance doesn't nessecarily needs extra high VTF either.
So your general assumptions on the trackability of low compliance carts is wrong.
However - most if not all high ultra-compliance carts are MMs. They are - viewed as a group - better "trackers" than the MC anyway. But for different reasons than compliance.

So - the calculator mentioned is fine, as long as you deal with moderate weight cartridges in 9" tonearms. When the total length and/or the cartridge mass do increase considerably, it is a different story and the calculation is enhanced by a VERY dynamic factor. Thats why all these calculations fail as soon as you deal with say a Koetsu Onyx or similar.

The crux is the added mass so far away from the bearing point and its immense effect on the effective (NOT static !!) moving mass.

Hope this helps to clarify the point.

Cheers,
Daniel
Thanks Daniel,

now what about that D-103 I mentioned?

Lightweight body 4.8g , Low compliance ~5CU in a 'modern' medium-mass arm?

Axel
Daniel and Raul,
Regarding your advice about damping: I have not used damping on my SME V since I got the Air Tight PC-1. In fact I removed the damping trough and cleaned out any silicone residue. I used the resonance calculator and my cartridge/tonearm combination seems pretty good at 10.5 Hz.

SME V eff. mass = 10-11g
PC-1 weight = 12g
PC-1 compliance = 10cu
Resonance = 10.5 Hz

Settings: no damping, 1.0g antiskate, 2.1g VTF, VTA level with 150g LP, loading at 22ohm with Pass Labs XOno phono amp. Cartridge aligned using MINT Tractor made for specific arm/cartridge combo. Azimuth, zenith and null points all correct.

The PC-1 is a fairly heavy cartridge with low/medium compliance. The math seems to work and it sounds wonderful. Is this because the arm is quite rigid with good internal damping?
Dear Peter, the SME V is VERY rigid and has good energy transmission. The PC-1 is not that heavy and the SME V is a 9" tonearm with fairly loss mass at the end of the lever (the armtube widens towards the bearing - very good to lower effective moving mass and enhance rigidity).

Your settings seems fine to me - especially the antiskating being only 1/2 value of the VTF.

Enjoy your music,
Daniel
Dear Axel, the DL-103 is a very simple cartridge with a lousy body. There have been a number of body modifications in the past 30 years - some by Denon, some by others. There even are several lead-body DL-103 around.

The compliance of the DL-103 is sometimes mentioned with 5 dyne, but it is usually 7-9. It is definitively "softer" compared to SPU or FR-7 cartridges. Todays DL-103 are ever increasing in compliance.

The DL-103 ws usually used in radio stations with fairly heavy and unsophisticated headshells. They added the mass missing in the DL-103's body. The DL-103 was once designed by Denon for their broadcast division and severed in japanese radio stations for over 30 years. It was mounted in those fairly heavy headshells and fitted to Denon tonearms with headshell adapter. The low body mass had no influence, as the headshell used was so heavy.