Micro Max 282 vs. Exclusive EA-10

Dear Daniel, In our communication in the so called 'ordinary languge' many things are (pre) supposed
to be known. Some kind of economy of the language use.So
I already presupposed the 'fact' of the subjective approach in our hobby . One get usualy the advise to 'listen with his own ears'. A strange looking sentence
but the intendend meaning is to trust more your own hearing then those of others. So Raul as well as you should add 'according to me'. I know about the desire to put more in our statements than this 'damned' subjectivity
because of the inclination to 'objecify' our own opinion.
But all of us who know anything about scientific proof also
know that there is not a single scientific condition that is satisfied. Raul is obviously searching in a scientific way but there are no measurements to support his claims. Besides one can not have it both ways: subjective as well as objective. That is way there was no contradiction between you both. According to me that is. Such fights as between you both are, if I am well informed, also usual between even the particle physicist. I don't enjoy them but I am not suprised at all. Anyway you both are our high regarded members.

Regards,

Dear Lew, I am sorry but despite your statement that you
have no 'set opininon' some sets are always involved by
any comparations. There are even sets with just one member.
Ie there is no way out of sets. My post started with an specific question. What kind of influnce a peace of 40cm
wire between the coils (x m. of cupper wire) and phono cable (+/- 1m) can have? Your argument is about two materials reg. conductivity that according to you can be measured? But, headshell wire ignored, my 'case' is about
3 different kind of wire in series. Not to mention all the
solderings parts. Any idea how this serie can be measured with some conclusive outcome?

Regards,

Dear Nikola, at least "discussions" between R. and D. do contribute do fill the audio silly season which approaches soon ...;-) ...
You and me know well enough the principle of the volontè générale and how it was and is misinterpreted ever since it's birth.
Nothing about sound description is objective nor can it be.
In audio discussion with it's high egoism and individuality the abuse of personal preferences all too often leads into this kind of thinking.
Scientific approach ?
Certainly no one here really has a scientific approach to electrical components of the audio chain and particular not to their "sound quality".
This audio whole game is the contradiction per se of scientific approach.
You'll even get arguments here about simple geometry and force vectors.
Audio discussion is all about personal ideas, likes, dislikes, taste and individual matrix.
It is very much the same as discussing religious topics and believe.
Non-objective by nature.
Cheers,
D.

Dear Raul,
maybe I am not very precisely listing all the words which are neccessary to describe the sound the Ikeda silver wire produces. It also depends on the units we are using - so it is always related to the instruments (audio reproduction machines, chain, combinations) used and the people behind them (we, you and me). I don't think we should believe that we are able to produce test results on a scientific bases between our systems.

When I say warm I mean not the typical cool sound "bad silver" may generate. Neutral in terms of cables is in my VHAFMMDO not a condition
I like to have. All these 2 Dollar cables sound to me very neutral - they don't sound but other people still believe it makes not a difference - okay.
Let them end up with neutral emotions - not me. Okay when you mean a cable should not alter the sound to the bad side than this is somehing different and I guess it is that what you mean.

Regarding tonearm inner cables I prefer a very precise, open and wide
expression - this is for me brilliance and I would never use a tonearm cable which is not able to transport these qualities. Hope you can get along with my remarks.

Dear Thuchan: I understand you. I'm not saying that the Ikeda ones are not good because they are what I'm saying is that over a " serious " tests on three different audio systems along other 19 cables/wires there are other cables that IMHO are " dead neutral " against the Ikeda.

Two of those audio systems are really accurate where the third ( tubes ) has some colorations. During the tests at the end all those cables I name it outperform the Ikeda in all three systems.

The tests were not at random but following an " strict " process that include ( between other things ): same groves between the same LPs tracks ( grooves that I know as my palm's hand. I even know from which side and how many and which kind of ticks/pops have those LP grooves. ), even SPL, no other system change but the tonearem wires, relaxed mood, time/day hours tests with the lower background place noises, same cartridge/tonearm set up overall process, etc, etc.

Of course at the end this is only my opinion but as always the important one is yours because you are the one that must live with those wires.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.