TW-Acustic Arm

Dear Nandric, while I certainly enjoy your post and hold your attitude towards high end in high esteem, I think very few would like to follow us in the direction this discussion is now going.
While the original purpose of either "party" for the ultimate goal of this thread is long lost and the thread as alive as a dead horse, I would nevertheless add a final comment from my side.

My original intend - here and in many other threads I participated in - was, that everyone should at less show a remote interest in the art of deduction in the sense of looking close and with attention to detail to a new product. Without being - positively or negatively - biased in his view by name, image or price tag. I however realized that this in fact is the most dangerous mine-field of them all.
Way too many audiophiles do give individual audio components a status, which they never deserve.
This should all be about transmitting recorded music.
Any high-end component is nothing but a technical device which should - in an ideal world - suit it's purpose and should otherwise "vanish" from the mind and attention.
As this whole game is today a lot about money, buying power and image/status by owning certain (expensive) components this attempt is of course futile.
Looking close, looking for plain results, performance and contend does today interfere in the most cruel sense of the word with the price tag and the status gained by owning a hailed and expensive component.

Well - a brave new world.
The world we deserve - as we apparently don't ask for more and so deserve no better.

Oh come on you great modern philosophers, it is so much fun discussing very high priced items, not only in the world of high end. Look at watches, cars, ships, helicopters, business jets (I hope you are well stuffed with those... :-)

So a rabbit needs to become a grizzly we have to have some respect when standing in front of it. This is the modern world we are all in - or do you like to walk without air powered, gel-filled and steam pressured shoes instead using the simple sandals of Pontius Pilatus...?

Dear Thucham& Dertonarm, There is also much joy and fun in discussing in 'general' in this forum. I personaly enjoy to
readLewn,Carr,Dertonarm,Mikelangvine,Doug ,Thucham.etc.etc. for pure,say, intellectual reasons. It is not only about analog gear. There are many 'technical subjects' that are to complex for me to comprehend. But even so I very much enjoy reading about them . There are many inquisitive minds in our forum eager to post their knowledge and experience. We are, I assume, thankful for this shering. But there is no need ,I think, to become skeptical or even sarcastic about our gear. The most of us are very awere about the price-quality relation. I.e. the most of us can't afford those prices. One can of course dream about
winning the lottery and bay what ever one pleases but I don't belive that there are many who realy belive such an 'proposition'. So Thucham don't get 'sarcastic'. I have,btw, no worry about Dertonarm. Hi is 'indestructable'.
Regards,

Dear Thuchan, sorry to burst the bubble, but those plain and maybe quite uncomfortable sandals you are referring to, did conquer europe while covering the feet of the roman legions.
They did it without air cushioned heels and they did it the hard way. With attention to detail, discipline and great engineering (first phonton-bridge over the Rhine, superb aqueducts all over southern europe - some still standing after two milleniae).
So those sandals or the attitude going with them back then would just look great on some audio designers today.
Yes, it is of course fun discussing our toys.
But we are hardly discussing them.
The attention today is too much circled around the toys "per se" and discussion means different opinions. Different opinion about a component means heading straight into the mine-field of hurt feelings.
Quod erat demonstrandum in disputa ...........