Soundsmith dl103r vs. Dynavector 17d3 ruby ?


Hi all , I've been enjoying a soundsmith (level 2 ruby line contact) dl103r for the last year… I absolutely loved it, and hated letting it go.
Recently had an opportunity to buy a dyna 17d karat with a ruby cantilever. I'm wondering how they compare,, anyone have any insight or experience?
Thanks, Harv.
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I am curious about the Ruby Cantilever 17D3 . The original design of the Cartridge uses a very short [ 17mm ] Diamond Cantilever . Does Soundsmith use their standard length Cantilever ?? Does this affect the sound drastically ???

I have owned several Soundsmith Level 2 & 3 Ruby Cant. Cartridges including a Denon 103 w/Wood Body and my current Shelter 901 and feel every one was an improvement on the Original .
Finances dictated my sale of that 103r.
Sorry for leaving that little tidbit out?
Anything useful to add??
Finances dictated my sale of that 103r.
Sorry for leaving that little tidbit out?
Anything "useful" to add, or is that it?
Are you shure about ruby on the DV17D3 ?
Can you see the red cantilever ?
My own experience is limited at comparing the DL103 vs DV17D2mkII.
There is not much to compare between them.
The amount of info at HF was multiplied by 3
The speed & detail also
Both are exiting cartridges each one with it's own merits but the Dyna prefers a monitoring view while the Denon is a different animal, more upfront & perhaps more balanced but less definition of fine detail.
The body, clarity, power strength & soundstage are equal : not SOTA but true to the music & almost complete.
Both are excellent values but I would not compromise my source with anything less than the Denon DLS1. Same price with the Dyna but better.
Now... Between DL304 & DV17D2mkII that's a tough one !
I tend to prefer the DL103R over the DL304. Not by much, but I think it is a little more refined. I suppose with a ruby cantilever will be even more so, must betters the DV17 hands down.
Of course the diamond (KARAT) cantilever of the DV17 is not the limiting factor, neither I think that a custom Ruby cantilever could be an upgrade over the Diamond. Even more if it is longer than the standard 1.7mm
Again...Are you shure about it ?