A Copernican View of the Turntable System

In_shore,

I still have one board available behind one of the Bavarian Voices speakers possibly taking up the Air Force One. But I gave myself a promise not exceeding the number of five turntables. In that case I need to sell one of the turntables, which one do you like to have?

I have heard about the advantages of wall mounted shelves - Halcro inspired me a lot -. In my configuration I need to implement different measurements which I did.

I share Halcro`s assessment of the Phantom II. It is a good arm and you may put it on a SME table to better it up - I mean the SME. But there are much superior designs out in the market and also the vintage design of FR and SAEC I believe beat the Phantom by far.

best @ fun only

Dear Thuchan,
I'm excited to hear about your ideas for a wall-mounted shelf for one or more of your turntables.
I can almost guarantee that you will be happy with the results :^)
You also inspired me about trying a Minus K stand under the Raven......and Mark Doehmann is making one up for me to try?
We are both in for some interesting listening in the future it seems?

In_ shore,
I don't quite understand how an arm can be a bad match for a turntable......unless it is a heavy arm or unipivot on a suspended deck?
But then.....suspended decks have never been my cups of tea?
Can you possibly explain why you think an arm can be a mismatch for a particular turntable?

Dear Halcro,
you will like the "Minus-K Raven combination" with "the two motors" and the Bavarian string, I am pretty sure.
Good move!

I will get the AlnicSpeedNic at this weekend and test it (also against the Timeline). Will report about the results.

best @ fun only

Thuchan I have a little Micro Seiki table and thought of a bigger one from time to time, but reality, that's as far as it would go.
It is a very rare thing to see any component in this hobby actually shoot up in value as opposed going the other direction. That retro mechanical look of some of the models I find quite attractive even with the model 1500 that I have.

Halcro

I can only specilate why this would be, maybe some sort of interaction the arm did not like at all, however sure enough with switching back and forth the Phantom and Dyna cartridge jumped to life on a dd table in a panzerholz deck.
No question what I was hearing between the two tables, it really did disturb me and that prompted me to sell the Raven asap.
If this fluke of an experiment wasn;t done most likely I would of looked at evrything but the table for this dark , border line listless music being played.

Not a very nice thing to say is it?, but I did spend a fare amount of money on it and my wife's reaction to selling it only after less then a year is another story.

Anyway I was quick to make that decision and thinking about it now as I type I wonder of a defect of sorts that was missed at the factory possibly? Well that was three years ago and I never did hear back from the buyer.

I need to throw my 2 cents in here, as I have very high regards for Bob Graham's design.
And saying that I must add, that I am absolutely no fan of the uni-pivot principle in pivot tonearm design for certain reasons (which I won't discuss ...;-) ... for obvious reasons ...).
The new Phantom Supreme is VERY good.
As were it's predecessors.
The design of the Graham tonearms does ask for very good mechanical coupling and speedy energy transfer in the armboard and plinth however.
This has to be taken into account when mating the Graham tonearms.
That's why In_shore mentioned the possibility of mis-match with certain turntables.