Suggestions for building system


Hello all, Im a new member to this forum and new to vinyl as well. I've long contemplated jumping into vinyl and, after having been handed down about a hundred records, have decided to really clamp down and seriously research equipment. I'm hoping you all would be kind as to give suggestions/input on all aspects of a system (turntable,amp,speakers) as I am starting from scratch. For the record, I just want a simple system that I can enjoy in the confines of my bedroom.

As far as my budget, I'm dedicating at least $1K and up to $1,500. I also have a $200 gift card for Amazon, which might be integral later on in this post.

I have done some homework and have noticed many trends...

For turntables, I have consistently heard to go the used route, but also to avoid ebay and preferably avoid shipping and purchase something that can be picked up. I don't mind this at all, and a Thorens TD-160 looks very appealing, however I've searched my local craigslist as well as newspaper ads to no avail. There is a record store in the town next over(bout 20 min drive) which occasional gets some tables in, though rarely. I'm in no rush to buy a TT, but my patience with the local market is waning. As far as new, I must admit that the Rega RP1 is appealing, though I've heard polarizing reviews. It retails for $450, though with said gift card for Amazon, I could theoretically get it for $250 out of pocket. Thoughts?

After tables, my knowledge dwindles a bit. For amps, the school of thought seems to be that separates(Pre+amp) are best. First, can I afford to take this route? On the other hand, I've found a good amount of Marantz, which are pretty positively reviewed,in the 22XX range reasonably priced at about $200 and below on ebay. Would this be a good fit for me/my needs?

Lastly, speakers. I don't know much as to what to look for. Based on reading various forums I've heard good things of the PSB Alpha B1 and Image B6, but not much else beyond that.

Sorry for such a long post, guys. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Daniel
dannyj7
Build your system around a good speaker and integrated amp found on the GON.

Start auditioning components in your area from local hifi stores.

Couple of suggestions found on the GON:

Swan D1.1se Mini Monitor

Integrated
NAIM NAIT 3, Musical Hall, NAD or Arcam a85
Welcome to the wonderful world of precision audio and to the joys of vinyl playback!

The good news is that you should be able to get a musically satisfying system within the $1500 cash budget you mentioned.

First, I think that you would want to purchase a complete turntable-arm-system from a dealer, since set-up is an important part of performance. You might as well have a pro do it originally for you. The Rega RP1 would be a good start. For about the same money, another option is one of the entry-level Pro-Ject 'tables, with a decent entry-level MM cartridge. So say you spend $300 out-of-pocket, plus your Amazon gift card on something like that.

I would think you would be hard pressed to do better than a Rega Brio for an integrated amp. It's about 40-50 wpc and has a built-in MM phono input, so you don't have to spend money on a separate phono stage and interconnect. The Brio is $695 new, but you might be able to find a used or demo for less.

Even paying full freight to buy a Brio new, that would leave about $500, and there are lots of very decent monitors out there in that price range. The Totem Dreamcatcher just got a rave review at $575. The PSBs are nice, too. The small Quads (non-powered versions) sounded good to me the one time I got to hear them.

Some of the B&W's get high marks though I have to say they've never gotten my toes tappin' like the Totems. In a different vein, the entry level Maggies at $500 are supposed to be very tasty, though I haven't heard them and don't know how they'd fair (a) with the Rega and (b) in a bedroom system that might have limited space. Same for a used pair of Vandy 1c's.

I guess the bottom line is that you are going to have plenty of choices to make and need to trust your ears. Don't be afraid to "make do" when it comes to stuff like speaker stands and wires -- for the time being. It's true that they impact the sound, but for your initial purchase I would concentrate on getting the best quality source, amp, and speakers (i.e., ones that sound best to you) that you can afford and then fill in the rest as you go.

Happy listening!
Dawgfish's advice is good IMHO. Another approach, not hard to take where I live, is to visit a few audio stores and decide where you feel the most comfortable. Then start building a relationship.

This can be done several ways, not necessarily by making a major purchase. Do buy some smaller things, an LP or two for example. Check out the used and demo items. Ask to hear a favourite recording on the best system they have.

The objective is to hear the best systems you can and discuss ways to get there eventually. This will be of enormous help as you make your initial choices, because you will learn what qualities and features are most important to you.

Although buying new gear from a store is more expensive than any other way to get it ( except being scammed on the Internet ), trial and error can cost you too. In the long run knowing what you want may end up saving you more than you thought.

One thing to avoid like the plague is auditioning an item at a store and then going out and buying the same unit used, for cheaper, on the Net.

Finally, I have a preference for listening to systems where money is spent on the source first. This is because you can hear a good source through any downstream gear, and I find that more fun to listen to than an ordinary source through great speakers. So if I were buying with a view to later upgrades, that's how I'd balance things.