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Who uses high end TT setup for vintage records ?

Many of us are into Vinyls because we listen to lots old vintage music along with the new ones. Digital sounded nasty with all those oldish recordings. Analog on the contrary is much more like music but as we move up the analog chain we start segregating vintage from modern recordings simply because our $$$ MC cartridge doesnt favour old records. It can sound noisy, lean, unforgiving. All that classic vintage warmth which is embedded in those old vinyls somehow do not get conveyed.

I always knew a lot of the turntables and cartridges are clearly voiced to favour a certain era of music/recordings. But it seems even tonearms have such favouritisms. Lot of these new age tonearms dont play old records with grace.

I am trying to meet members here who have successfully been able to use their high end TT/tonearm/cartridge combination to play any kind of music from any era with its desired grace, warmth and musicality. What combination did you arrive at ?

I understand one can always use a second tonearm/cartridge combination to play old records but that is not the point, cant we have a nice high end combination doing everything well ?
pani
pani OP
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Examples are many. Turntables that could not play many of the classic/vintage rock/pop recordings well:

1. Scheu Premier
2. Oracle Delphi
3. Origin Live
4. Clearaudio (sorry dont remember the model)
There are many more.

Cartridges that clearly favour newer vinyls:
1. Lyra
2. ZYX
3. My Sonic Lab
These are among the few I have heard

Tonearms I have not tried many but none of them gets the feel of vintage-ness as good as the good old SME 3012. These are just my own experiences within my system.
mt10425
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My TT is vintage with a couple of upgrades, Mitsubishi LT-30 from 1979. A Grado Sonata 5mv is the cart. I tried a ZYX. I listen to everything from Sinatra-era to current Grace Potter rock. I've listened to classic rock forever. I'm almost 60. My collection of about 3500 and growing has many variations of vinyl, mono, audiophile, compressed, mostly clean and free of noticeable pops, but sometimes it's hard to get around less than sterling quality for some rarer LPs. My system plays it all well enough for me.
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viridian
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Pani, the whole subject is fraught with problems. Since we are dealing with a system, it is very hard to ascribe differences to arm, cartridge or turntable and not some interaction between them. Add to that the vagaries of setup and then the subjective aspect - what may be fine to you is not fine to me - and it explains the differences of opinion regarding the issue.
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atmasphere
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I always knew a lot of the turntables and cartridges are clearly voiced to favour a certain era of music/recordings. But it seems even tonearms have such favouritisms. Lot of these new age tonearms dont play old records with grace.

I don't buy this at all. Modern arms, if anything, play older LPs a lot better then older arms do. Tonearms, cartridges and turntables are not and never were 'voiced' for certain records.
manitunc
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I dont agree at all. I use a Sota Cosmos IV, Oracle Delphi V SE and Transrotor Fat Boy, all fairly new models, and see no difference playing 50 and 60s original albums from my latest re-issues of the same music. I also use Lyra, Ortofon and Dynavector cartridges. The sound is comparable, if not quite as detailed, on my Empire, Russco and Rekokut tables using similare SME 309 arms. Is there a particular album where you are experiencing this effect?
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