Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1


I'm trying to decide between Micro Seiki RX 5000 and TW AC-1.
They are approx. the same price used (about $10K)
Both are belt drive.
Unfortunately, I don't have a first hand experience with either of the tables.
You can see my current set-up in my system page.
The reason, I want to make a change from DD TT to belt drive is just to try a different approach.
Also, I have a feeling, that the bass would be one of the areas, where MS and TW might have an edge over my current DD Technics SP-10 MkII
My endeavor into analog is fairly new, so I'm not sure what my final choice in analog would be, unless I try it in my own system.
What I'm really interested in is the following:
Sonic differences b/w MS, TW and Technics SP-10 MkII
Reliability
Service availability.
maril555
too bad these threads always seem to get personal. someone has to quote someone else and then bash or "poppycock" what was said.

maril555, i do own both tables in question. they are side by side on my rack, not at a friend's or at a show or somewhere else. the fact is, the TW is a better table. i would not recommend spending $10k on the RX5000. you would be farther ahead with a raven 1 and the matching 10.5 arm.
speaking of arms, i did have the micro max 282 on the RX1500. sold it as soon as i bought an old breuer 5C. the breuer cost me $1500 used and i sold the mint max 282 for $3700. it was dull and lifeless compared to the breuer, using the same cartridge. so don't get caught up in the micro pricing. you're paying for the collect-ability there also.
the micros are great tables, please don't get me wrong. some of the models are just overpriced for their performance.
maril555
fwiw, i use a living voice mystic mat over the integral copper TW mat. i also use the mystic mat over a copper mat on the 1500 platter. i find the TW sounds great with a furutech record weight and the 1500 prefers the bdr weight.
Corby,
Your input is just priceless to me, since you have both tables in the same system.
One question, though- did you hear "the leading edge" problem without the Living Voice Mystic mat on TW?
Maril...I'd like to make a few points in response to your concern with the "leading edge" issue. I've already indicated I use the Raven One, and like Pani, initally heard what he did. In fact, a short while ago I posted a thread seeking some assistance in acquiring a cartridge with less leading edge and more trailing end information. That was prior to having my monoblock amps restored to their original status after previously having them modified quite a few years ago, newly inserting them with iec capability enabling choice in power cord selection, changing their 12ax7 and EL34 tubes with different brands and making vta adjusments to my TW Acustic 10.5 tonearm. Collectively, these measures enabled me to effectively eliminate the excessive edge issue without even changing my Dynavector XX2 cartridge. Incidentally, I have not used nor do I presently use any mat with the Raven One platter. I also have not modified either the feet or the foundation or stand on which the table rests. So yes, I initially experienced a bit too much leading edge, but was successful in achieving system synergy and overcoming it. Obviously, I cannot speak for others regarding whether they have faced the same issue, and if so, whether they have managed to optimize their systems to their own satisfaction.