Direct drive vs belt vs rim vs idler arm


Is one TT type inherently better than another? I see the rim drive VPI praised in the forum as well as the old idler arm. I've only experienced a direct drive Denon and a belt driven VPI Classic.
rockyboy
Lharasim -
I did read your response and had another look at the video. The "lurching" or "hunting" that I see occurs in the 1st 19 seconds before you put your finger on the platter. Did you have another finger on the platter out of sight ? From the lurching and hunting could I guess the deck might be an old Technics DD - maybe an SL1200 or early SP10 ?
Ct0517 and all,

Yes, I am familiar with Verdier's work, and admire I it. I am puzzled that his bearing doesn't seem to be in keeping with his papers, but I suppose that is a topic for another thread, not that I would say anything critical about Verdier because he did think outside the box. Verdier, Mitchell Cotter and others have written at length regarding the practical application physics in audio. If anyone thinks we are fumbling around in the dark now, I cannot imagine how it would be without men like them to at least challenge us to reach higher.
Hello Dover no its a pioneer TT I really wish you would contact me offline about this ..but ok here goes... its a pioneer PL L1000A I have used this table with our own arm to great avail!!

speed drift something like .00008% @ 33 rpm!!

and possibly as or more important.... less then .00003%/per degree of temp change!!!

IMMHO there is nothing out there that can compete with this very advanced hung motor rotor motor and its electronics...

lots to the experimenter plinths or *nude* :)

more to come

Lawrence
Fidelity Forward
Mosin
I am puzzled that his bearing doesn't seem to be in keeping with his papers, but I suppose that is a topic for another thread

Hi Mosin thank you for your response. I am just an end user. I do not use a “bearing”. Nor did my vintage Granito model come with one. Sometimes when audiophiles really demand something, manufacturers sometimes have no choice but to start supplying it? You would know much more about this than me. It must be really tough sometimes? I could never be a manufacturer. You have my utmost respect Mosin in this regard ... as well as all other high end manufacturers out there trying to compete in this crazy market.

The manual is very clear on the setup bearing. It is just that - a setup tool only. It should be discarded once set up complete – Page 9. Using it imo is sacrilege. Defeating the purpose of the design.

Re: the Platine. Unfortunately there are non-authentic tables out there worldwide from 20 different counterfeiting makers. These tables are out there with people using them. If anyone is unaware of this, see the
Platine
Information on the JC Verdier website for more info.

To current/potential Platine Owners.

As an owner of this table, the only advice I can give when buying a Verdier Platine - be careful to ensure it is a real Platine, especially if buying privately. If you are looking to buy one or already have one and have doubts, check with an authorized dealer or Mr Verdier himself to ensure it is authentic.

Cheers