Direct drive vs belt vs rim vs idler arm

Hello Dover no its a pioneer TT I really wish you would contact me offline about this ..but ok here goes... its a pioneer PL L1000A I have used this table with our own arm to great avail!!

speed drift something like .00008% @ 33 rpm!!

and possibly as or more important.... less then .00003%/per degree of temp change!!!

IMMHO there is nothing out there that can compete with this very advanced hung motor rotor motor and its electronics...

lots to the experimenter plinths or *nude* :)

more to come

Lawrence
Fidelity Forward

Mosin
I am puzzled that his bearing doesn't seem to be in keeping with his papers, but I suppose that is a topic for another thread

Hi Mosin thank you for your response. I am just an end user. I do not use a “bearing”. Nor did my vintage Granito model come with one. Sometimes when audiophiles really demand something, manufacturers sometimes have no choice but to start supplying it? You would know much more about this than me. It must be really tough sometimes? I could never be a manufacturer. You have my utmost respect Mosin in this regard ... as well as all other high end manufacturers out there trying to compete in this crazy market.

The manual is very clear on the setup bearing. It is just that - a setup tool only. It should be discarded once set up complete – Page 9. Using it imo is sacrilege. Defeating the purpose of the design.

Re: the Platine. Unfortunately there are non-authentic tables out there worldwide from 20 different counterfeiting makers. These tables are out there with people using them. If anyone is unaware of this, see the
Platine
Information on the JC Verdier website for more info.

To current/potential Platine Owners.

As an owner of this table, the only advice I can give when buying a Verdier Platine - be careful to ensure it is a real Platine, especially if buying privately. If you are looking to buy one or already have one and have doubts, check with an authorized dealer or Mr Verdier himself to ensure it is authentic.

Cheers

After reading Salvatore review of the J Nantais Lenco, i knew i needed a bearing.After searching a lot i have found Dixchen on Lencoheaven who was making a bearing for lenco or garrard following the research made on twogoodears
http://twogoodears.blogspot.fr/2011_11_01_archive.html
You need to do to the middle of the page to see it.
The difference with the lenco bearing is impressive ,more bass, silence during the playing of records, wider and mainly deeper stereo stage...It's not a small difference but immediately you listen and it's far better.It's more important than to change the cartridge.

Lharasim -
My suggestion then, based on what I see in the video, and given the age of the deck, would be to get the power supply checked over and ensure it is in spec, check the electrolytic caps which can dry out. In my experience decent power supplies contribute hugely to the sound of a turntable, not just speed accuracy.
For a few dollars you may get quite an all round improvement.

Nice thread and lots to learn, however I am not sure which aspect to bother about in this whole game. I own a Nouvelle Platine BTW.

Another thing, whenever there is a discussion of "well designed" TTs, the names that come up are Seiki, Technics, Victor, Luxman etc, all Japanese TTs. What about EMT ? Where do they stand ? Arent they suppose to be one of the best TTs of their age ? I know the 927 has achieved legendary status but why should we leave out the smaller models like 938, 930 and 950, they built to similar standards as well! I havent measured but I would guess they hold their speeds as good as any of the DDs and Idlers discussed here and have great bearings. However they are rarely discussed in this forum.