Turntable cartridge


I have a Music Hall 2.2LE with pro ject arm turntable and just installed a Grado red cartridge.
I think it sounds OK, although I was expecting a bit more so I'm wondering whether the cart needs to be broken in, if so, how long?
Also would anyone suggest a better match for the turntable?
maddog66blue
Hi Zd542, the rest of my system is:
Amp - Sonic Frontiers SFS-50 tube amp
Pre - VTL 2.5
CD - Moon .5
Phono Pre - Moon LP3
Speakers - B&W 805D & B&W stands filled with sand
Sub - B&W 12"
Speaker cables, interconnects - Nordost
DVD - PS3
Thanks for the information, is that cart a good match for my system?
You have a nice system. The phono needs to break in as stated. It will sound alot better as you approach 100 hours or so. You might also be hearing the limits of your vinyl rig as your electronics and speakers are pretty resolving.Plus, make sure your cartridge is set up properly. Cheers.
I've never heard your cart. so I can't tell you how good it is. If I had to guess, I would say that it should work fine; just let it break in first.

Your preamp is excellent. The 2.5 is very underrated. I feel that's your strongest piece. Everything else is good as well. I'm not a huge fan of B&W speakers, but that's just my personal preference. If you like them, thats all that matters.
Thanks, I do like my setup. I was looking at getting a pro ject speed box, have you had any experience with those, if so, is it a worthy upgrade or no?
Thanks
I haven't heard a Grado cart, but at $140 it seems outclassed by the other gear you have, which all looks very nice. Your current table and phono should be able to reveal the improvements of a higher-end cart; I'd put in more money there.

I know I wouldn't be satisfied with just an Ortofon 2M Red (@ $100) with downstream gear like that, and I mention Ortofon because I've heard many of their carts, and and enamored with the sound-quality/value ratio they provide (via the 2M/Kontrapunkt/Cadenza lines) at every point up to around $2K.

While not familiar with Grado's cartridges, I am familiar with much of their headphone line; while they have some great qualities, the experience hasn't left me very confident in the value proposition of their other products. Ortofon, on the other hand, strikes me as the cartridge sound/value analogue to Sennheiser headphones. I know that the Ortofon 2M series works well on the Pro-Ject arms; my dealer uses that combo.

Break-in aside (I had a Kontrapunkt c that sounded bloody *amazing* right out of the box), if I were you I'd be looking at the 2M Bronze or Black -- the latter of which would definitely benefit from subsequent table upgrades! And yes, a speed-box is a great idea and can only help, but I'd make a cart upgrade top priority.