Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
Hello Downunder

In my case, with one motor, the speed slows down ( as observed by the 33 mark moving to the left of the strobe disk) when the needle is in the groove. Are you using more than one motor?

Andrew
Hi Andrew

I have the AC-3, so 3 motors.
Never had an issue to align the belt in the middle of each motor pulley. Just adjust the feet slightly and after some slight changes the belt aligns perfectly. My VPI HRX belt always vibrated all over the place, so the TW a lot better:-)

Are you sure the 33 drifts slightly to the left? KAB says left is faster.

BTW, what mat do you use, or are you direct to the copper plate. I have tried the millenium, Boston and no mat. I found the Living Voice is quite a bit better than all of these. Dgad recommended it a while back.

Cheers
Hi,3 of my friends bought TW ACUSTIC tables after hearing my well set up table.These guys all Love there tables.
Downunder,

I am back to just the copper. But the reason is it sounds almost the same. On the AC I preferred the Living Voice.
Just wanted to explain my speed test. I have a Prism Orpheus AD-DA converter. I just play a test tone and zoom in to 1000 Hz (I think that is the frequency I am using) and watch it on the spectrum analyzer on the screen. The wave peak is centered on 1000 Hz. When I change the speed up or down it moves to 997 or 1003. It is easy enough to check wow & flutter and if the speed is set right. I don't know if the Cardas LP is perfect but that is what I use. It is spot on to the tolerance of the software I guess but you can see if you are off at all. One thing for sure you can hear the difference when you change the adjustment to being just off a touch. Very easy to hear. The weak link is that a turntable with switchable speed for 33 and 45 can never be as good as a dedicated motor & PS for each individually. And of course the belt. Funny no one has brought that up here as of yet.