Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
I explained in a previous post how adjusting the motor controller for accurate speed by flipping its switch up or down very quickly, checking the KAB strobe for correctness and then using the other switch to lock in that speed got the job done for me. Yes, unfortunately the push button allowing for slight adjustments does not work. I hear no problems with the reproduction of voices or any number of different orchestral instruments. I also made adjustments with the tonearm and vta. Based on repeated listening, and affixing two pieces of printer's tape, one with an arrow mark on the flat portion of the vta dial and the other with a range of line markings on the stainless steel platform just beneath the vta dial of my TW 10.5 tonearm, I was able to obtain repeatable settings for various thicknesses of records. It has worked beautifully. The feet for my Raven One table are TW's own. I've used neither a record mat nor a separate isolation platform. There's only a solid concrete floor with carpet on it and my Just-A-Rack (no longer in business as far as I know) stand. I feel fortunate to have my music and sound just the way I want it. I hope some of what I've said regarding my setup might help any number of those who have had problems.
To any one with a Raven AC or AC3. A couple years ago I had a hard time dialing in the VTF/VTA for the best sound. After double checking for level I realized that while level was fine the right front footer was a bit loose. Loose is not quite right, there was not as much weight on that footer.

After adjustment so that the TT weight was more evenly distributed among all three footers the issue went away. This adjustment has been required twice in almost four years.

FYI
Dgad

Up to last week I had been running with no mat as well. The arm board was set up for the tall dyna xv-1s. The Lyra Atlas is not as tall and was down the bottom of the Phantom vta tower. I think that may not be optimal and on the Phantom.

I had to use the mat to use the overachieving denon dls1 on my 2nd armwand, so also used it when I went back to the Atlas. I was surprised how much better the mat sounded.

I may need to lower the height of the arm board to get a more fair comparison. That is a pita to do thou:-)
Thr posting from Dev will be ignored as usual. In the next Raven Thread all the Fanboys will be back again with their "recommendations".
I think, some have absolutely no idea about turntable design and blubber something without knowing anything... rpm 33.333334 or 33.333333 when the Timeline drifts the difference is MUCH higher... lousy Pulleys...none of you seems to have an idea what that means ... internal damping ..also no idea from all of you except Dev ... belt quality...and so on and on and on.... I listened to a Dealer Demo with a very expensive TW table (BN or something I forgot), the TW Arm, the TW electronics and very expensive Cessaro Horns, I asked for Belafonte at Carnegie, Matilda
I was amazed that a lot of the higher tones, frequencies, echoes, roominformation was reduced and pale. And different from timing...Far away from what is possible based on that recording. But the owners told me how great it is....I accepted that and never looked back. But probably I will buy such a Turntable for my mother. She is 80+ and needs something for her 20 records, the unit is heavy enough to stay stable onto a table ...