Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
Symposium works wonderful in my system i have concrete over parquet floors with cinder block walls on a 200lbs Rix Rax. Tally Ho!!
Dear Peterayer,
you concern is absolutely okay. You need to level all three platforms in a way that they meet exactely the height you need. I do this with Copulare Coral lifters under the platforms by which you can adjust pretty fine turning the lifter. Just try it - you will not believe what you heard before!

In the SME case you described everything is done well.
Suteetat
CT0517, I only have one motor. It takes around 13-15s for the platter to come to a complete stop when I timed mine (Raven AC-1 with BN battery supply)

Thanks for that info Suteetat.
Is anyone running two motors or three ? Does the 13 -15 seconds elapsed time of a single motor – (platter to a complete stop from 33 1/3) – change when an additional motor is added?

Can anyone supply this data? I will provide some comparisons that I think are interesting and relevant especially if using battery.

Thanks
If a 160 pds Vibraplane with another 100+ pds tt slides away putting additional 0.2 pds on it, you have a serious problem with your total setup. Maybe that's also the reason why 200g records sound different from 180grs ;)
This may end up competing with Raul's thread for longest on the website, but it also competes with the now defunct TV series, "Seinfeld", in that the subject is "nothing".

Thuchan, I have to disagree with you. At least in theory it should not be best to place the motor drive of a belt drive system on a completely separate support from that of the turntable itself. This is a cardinal sin of bad belt-drive turntable design. (The commercial product analog is to use a suspended chassis bearing the platter and tonearm whilst the motor drive is fixed to the inert plinth.) This results in some of the most obvious "wow" that I've ever heard in vinyl reproduction. The original AR turntable was guilty of that infraction, as were the early SOTA turntables. Especially, to put the turntable on a Vibraplane or similar device and the motor on an inert shelf system is asking for trouble.