Mapeshade cable lifts or any cable lifts?

Not your response set me off at all. i found your response to be perfectly acceptable and reasonable. it was Griffithds response i was finding to be intolerable in it's snide way. So I apologize if you felt it was in any way aimed at you. as i was not.
Tweaks can be very system dependent.
But to have someone respond in the way Griffithds did is to insult anyone who finds they can make a difference.
And so i responded 'in kind' to his lack of respect.
Again, sorry if you felt it was also directed at your honest comment.

The OP asked if cable risers made any difference and Stringreen provided an answer to the question and included a specific detail related to the previous post made my Elizabeth. I don't really see what was so offensive about the post unless there is some other history that I don't know about.

For what it's worth, when I was reading the original post I was thinking that simple wood blocks would be an easy way to test the risers. I have significant doubts of the risers making a difference in 99.99% of systems but I also know that placebo is just as good as reality, especially when it's cheap.

Still friends, Liz....

Interesting the two no's are from 5 and 5A owners!!! Maybe the 5 seris isn't that reveling and no difference can be heard!!! Just a possibility!!!
Agree with Elizibeth it was a snide unnessary remark!
Apologies to RV and JR!

Enid Lumley's cable tunnels worked quite well - sections of pine 2x4s with the cables suspended inside the tunnels using thread and eye hooks.