How much money do you want to waste?


From everything I have read there is no proof that spending mega$$$$$ on cables does anything. A good place to start is WWW.sound.au.com. Go to the audio articles and read the cable article. From there pick up something(anything) by Lynn Olson and then do some digging. Ask your dealer for any study done by any manufacturer on how cables improve sound - good luck. The most hype and the most wasted money in audio is in cables these days. It's the bubble of the day in audio and , by the way, one of the big money makers for the industry. You might as well invest in tulip bulbs. Spend your audio buck where it counts.

I have a couple friends who make there own tube amps and they get better sound out of power systems that cost less then a lot of people blow on cables.


Craig
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To T southworth and Friends,
What is the resonant frequency of your tulip bulbs and can you e-mail a notch filter to to take care of it.
Thanks
Stay cool
CK
yeah you gotta get into cables man!!!
i had audioquests on my linn rigg $60 a shot,then a friend told me bout nordost blue heavens and they are $160 a shot and i tell you my system sounded like 5 blankets had been taken off the speakers--i had transparancy,balls,depth,detail-before i had a flat muffled sound---in comparisum what i had before.........
think of it as resistance--like a tap slightly on, slowly(dribbles) then open it up and all the water gushes out.......put that into a sound version......
also different frequencys travel differently on various materials like copper and silver....
it really makes or brakes a system-----
why spend a $1000 on a cd player and cheap out on a cable makes no sense to me--you was prepared to spend that amount in the first place.so do it justice--let all the sound out of it...
Some equipment are more sensitive to cable changes then others and everyone's price point is different. I will not make a general statment of one way or the other. I suggest you try to borrow some cables and listen for youself. If you like the result then look at the price and ask youself if you are willing to pay for it. Some people are willing to pay a lot for small changes and some will not. To me, my equipment are very sensitive to cables and I like the sound and the price of Harmonic Tech cables. I am now looking for a pair of Pro Silway MK II 4M XLR interconnect. Anyone has a pair for sell?
Craig K; I guess there's still a lot of life left in this subject, probably because there are always new people coming into the Forum. So far there have been 36 posts to this thread-- the most in a long time. So, my apologies if my first post was sort of jaded.

My own observations and experience is that the "best value" in wires lies in the middle of a wire companies range of products, eg I use mid-priced Syn. Res. wires with excellent results. These wires (ICs, spkr cables, and power cords) fit my budget, and have proven to make my stereo system sound better.

The mid-range cost wires are not a "cost is no object statement product" where the retail price has to be really high to cover the cost of the relatively few that will be sold. Mid and low priced wires have the advantage of "economy of scale", and IMO they can offer most of the performance of the "top of the line" wires, while still using top quality materials and manufacturing techniques. Cheers. Craig G.
Craig (Garfish, that is), re: mid-range wires. My experience is similar to yours regarding price/performance ratios with "mega" brands. Nordost is a good example: blue-heaven, spm, I have found to be good performers.

On the other hand, Valhalla easily outperforms all their other cables -- and most bank accounts. I heard a small Micromega (minium?) system sing beautifully with Valhalla cables... and no, the system was NOT (IMO) a giant killer by any stretch of the imagination, but euphonic all the same!

Re: cables. I have interacted with cable manufacturers in the past, so I can report the following regarding hi-end cables (audio, or otherwise). Some are standard industrial designs with proprietary matls made to (our well-known brand's) order by one of the large cable producers. Some are more complicated proprietary designs with asymmetric geometries and VERY expensive even in large lengths, again made to order.

Pricing: replacement cost is a factor ofcourse. BUT, a cable geometry that "performs" like $1000 will be invariably priced 900-1100 regardless of production cost. This is the norm, so many exceptions (super kits, smaller audio specialists, even known brands, etc) exist ofcourse and confirm the rule IMO.

DIY cables have been a solution for many of us who are handy -- unfortunately, I'm not handy enough...

Verdict: many (most? all?) giga$ cables perform well. On mega resolution systems. Prices are outrageous; vs. electronics, IMO, the next outrageous price/performance link: no comparison. Electronics are cheapo by comparison.

It's a vicious circle: we have components that can "play" only if they're connected by wire.. what a conundrum!