Canare Star Quad 4S11 too Mid-Fi?


I'm upgrading my system to include Von Schweikert VR4 SE's driven by a Bryston 14B SST, First Sound Presence Deluxe II preamp with an Empirical Audio modded EMC 1-UP CD player. My present "no-name" speaker cable is a 25 foot in-wall installation (where any replacement cable must also be run). I know I should upgrade my cable, but the length required translates to big bucks for high end cables, not to mention the need to keep the cabling to a manageable diameter for the in-wall installation. I've read some posts from Audiogon member Subaruguru mentioning Canare Star Quad 4S11 as a very good economical cable used by recording studios. Anyone have experience with this cable? Any other suggestions?
tvad
I'm in agreement with Zorpman. I have a 12' run in my second system and they have bettered all the zip-types,plus a few name brands I won't mention. The derogatory comment in the cable asylum was mentioned, I believe, by the infamous J. Risch, of DIY cable fame.He stated( in so many words) that the Canare was not much better than zip cord.I am in the process of evaluating one of Mr. Risch's famous designs and will compare the two. It is sad that a lot of "garage-type" cable sellers will take the Canare 4s11 cables and dress them up a bit and sell them for double or more of what you can get them for from a distributor, but even then, I still feel that they are a good bargain. For the price, it is worth an evaluation.Even if they don't meet your listening requirements, you won't have to take a great loss. It is a large guage cable, so make sure you know what you are doing if you DIY some connectors on them. Have some fun and enjoy.
Sherod or Zorpman, thanks again for your replies. What's the diameter of the 4S11?
The Canare 4S11 is a good cable if terminated as manufacture specifies. Don't be afraid to use a good quality spade with this cable. The copper WBT spade is an excellent match.

Regards,
Alan Maher
To Alan:
I just bought some Canare speaker cables to experiment with. What is the recommanded termination method from Canare?
Hi Tvad,
I'm not sure STUDIOS use this stuff, but recording engineers and roadies use it all the time for monitoring, as it's easy to work with and sounds great. I too have an EMC-1 SE, but probably will NOT blow another $1400 to have it tweaked by Empirical. Nonetheless it has such exquisitely natural top octave detail that I heard an improvement in going from Red Dawn to SPM on my Verity Audio Parsifal Encores. Yes, yes, I realize that 25' is a longish run, as I have 30 footers on my HT system surrounds, but there's a difference between applications here that makes me think twice about your options. Certainly you want enough copper to push the VR4 SEs from 25', with NO loss in rez or top octave detail provided by the EMC-1. Try the Canare, but I suspect that other high-current LINEAR cables MIGHT give you more life up top.
I very highly recommend the CANARE for budget systems, all HT, and for long runs for surrounds in any system. If you try it as an inexpensive first shot I suggest that you'll find it RELATIVELY very dynamic, but slightly softer on top than the most open, linear (Nordost, et al) cables, resulting in a neutral-to-laidback soundstage. It's indeed perfect for my Spendors in a HT setup, where most programming is too bright anyway, but with your (and my) 2 channel ref system just keep in mind its limitations. When I'm setting up friends' budget systems I start with it, then try Blue Heaven when more "life" is desired, but NOT at 25 feet. Keep in touch. Ern