Herman eats crow, RRL record cleaning fluids work


I recently answered a post on
distilled water saying that using deionized water was a bunch of bunk. Several people folowed up basically calling me an idiot and singing the praises of RRL fluids. I responded I didn't believe that these fluids could possibly live up to the hype accorded them. I then received an offer from a fellow member offering to send me some of these mystical fluids free of charge to try for myself. I accepted his challenge.

I just returned from Japan where I purchased some used vinyl including what appeared to be a mint Japanese pressing of Art Pepper "Live in Tokyo 79," one of my favorites. The RRL fluids were also awaiting in the mail.

I put the record on straight away and was greeted by quite a bit of surface noise so I decided it was time to give the RRL a trial on my VPI 17. I first applied about 10 drops of the deep cleaner and worked it in with my Audioquest carbon fiber brush turning the record several times in both directions and then vacuumed it off. I follwed with the same amount of vinyl wash using the same regime.

A massive transformation in background noise! I went from a used record that I was dissapointed in due to surface noise to a record that was dead quiet using barely enough fluid to even dampen the record. I am used to using a large volume of Disc Doctor fluid folowed by a lot of rinse water because if you leave any of the DD fluid on the record it will dry up and leave a residue.

I can't say for sure the DD routine would not have yielded the same results, but the RRL fluids were so much easier to use and so much quicker due to the tiny amount required that I am getting ready to order a big bottle of everything they have to offer.

A big thanks to 4yanx for sharing his fluids (record cleaning that is) with me.
herman
Herman,

I was one of those who came down on you rather harshly in the previous thread. A big tip of my hat to you for having the intestinal fortitude to try something and make a public statement about your positive experience. I'm very happy that RRL products worked for you and like 4yanks I have no desire to gloat. It is rewarding enough to have a small part in helping you enjoy our hobby/addiction even more.

This one's for you, Herman!
I've tried RRL cleaning fluid and I must agree with many previous posters on this site that it worked GREAT. On the other hand so did my "homebrew" with distilled water and a touch of detergent and photoflow. I must agree with Lugnut that there is no really significant difference. The most important thing to do is just cleaning the records carefully to begin with.
But I still really respect RRL - after all, anyone who can sell water at over $100 per gallon deserves our deepest capitalist respect.
Hi folks,

This has been a most interesting and engaging thread. For the (ahem) record, I've been a non-believer---much like Herman (probably worse, I've used my own home brew for years and thought distilled water is distilled water). However, having witnessed the enlightenment of our dining colleague, I'm about to place an order for the fluids from Galen Audio. 4yanx, I appreciate your generous offer, but I might well order the stuff now!! The collective testimony is too compelling. Thanks to all for sharing your insights during this exchange. I found it in the best spirit of community.

Good listening,

Ray
I also found the RRL cleaning fluids were better than previously tried commercial products.
David(4yanx) has been kind enough to gift myself, and others, with starter amounts of these products, just for the joy of helping his fellow vinyl fanatics reach a shared goal of "perfect sound forever". Despite an effort by the digital majority to highjack that phrase.
Kodak specifically states that photoflo should not to be used as any part of a record cleaning solution as it will be detrimental to the vinyl. Proceed at your own risk. Sean
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