Super Scoutmaster or Teres?


I'm looking to upgrade my VPI HW19 Junior turntable and after speaking at length with Mike at VPI today, I'm close to deciding to get the Super Scoutmaster. Before doing so, I'm wondering if a Teres 245 or 255 turntable would be the better choice. With a $900 Origin Live tonearm, the Teres would cost about a thousand dollars less, and I've heard great things about their tables, especially their motors. On the other hand, I feel comfortable with the stability of VPI as a company and am impressed with the basic turntable that I have. I also like the outer ring clamp that they provide to hold down the vinyl. I'd like to hear your views.
mlkiz
You contact Scheu directly. That was the price I was quoted a couple of months back and was surprised; maybe they made a conversion error as that included shipping, too, which must cost a bit from Germany to California for a 70 lb table. Contact Chris Feickert at this address:
webmaster@scheu-analogue.com

If you send me your regular email address I can forward you the pricing list that Chris sent to me. The Premier with the 12" arm was hard to beat. They will also make you a deal on an Allaerts cartridge; not cheap but one of the best. My email is c123666@comcast.net

Bear in mind that I think this quote was for the two tonearm model, too. Being able to accept a 12" arm opens up all sorts of possibilities (morch 12", sme 12", ikeda, fidelity research, scheu arms).

Another arm to consider is the one made by Carlos Morsiani. It is a hand made unipivot design he will supply in 9 or 12" length. Carlos recommended the Teres and Scheu hands down over any other turntable (except for his custom creations, of course). His arm is about 1000 US landed and an excellent value as he will make it to suit the type of cartridge you like to use.
C123666 writes:
Another arm to consider is the one made by Carlos Morsiani. It is a hand made unipivot design he will supply in 9 or 12" length. Carlos recommended the Teres and Scheu hands down over any other turntable (except for his custom creations, of course). His arm is about 1000 US landed and an excellent value as he will make it to suit the type of cartridge you like to use.
At CES 2004, Reference Audio Mods had a Morsiani C37 wooden tonearm on a Teres 200. This arm featured bronze metallic parts and Audio Consulting silver wiring. The price was quoted in their handout at $6,500.

It sounded excellent with a Koetsu Onyx Gold, retipped by Torlai.

I'm surprised to hear that you can get one for a grand. There must be more than one model.

Regards,
There is more than one model. I think he calls it the CM1 . Yes, the wooden one is exorbitantly priced and I'd go for a Schroder before that mostly for resale value. The other one can be had in a standard arm or a 12" arm and Carlos will set the arm up for the type cartridge you wish to use it with. Here is a link to a TNT Audio review:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/morsiani_e.html

Here is the link to Carlos' site and the page with the CM1 arm. He has all sorts of technical stuff explaining how he designs/why and builds the arm. My price quote was about a year ago and the dollar has continued sucking against the Euro so expect his prices to be a bit more.
I contacted Carlo about the CM-1 and he responded today with "Sorry,the production is discontinued.
Best regards,Carlo Morsiani." I was surprised - anyone know the scoop?
pity....and therein lies the problem with purchasing very low production hand made stuff...in a few years selling one used may be difficult for those that have one....VPI will still be in business and supporting its product more than likely.