Kharma Ceramique 1.1 vs JM Labs Alto Utopia


I've narrowed it down to either of these two choice. I like good bass slam, dynamics, also a non fatiguing sound is important. Listen to mostly , pop , old and new rock, techno. Have 400 Watts RMS per channel and a room which is 18W X 20D. I would love to hear opinions and thoughts on which would be a better choice for me and how they differ in sound from each other.

Thanks,
Magoo
magoo
Tough to call. I think ( to me ) the Kharma is a more a intimate type speaker that really shines when one listens at modest listening levels and which delivers a gorgeous balanced musical sound. To me bass slam is not its strong suit. Dynamics and non listener fatigue are for sure!
My guess would be the JM Lab would probably be a better choice. My opinion is judged only by owning the Kharma 1.0 and what good things I have heard about JM Labs.
Both excellent speakers but different in Character.
Who knows about that bass slam, Thorman, he's got 400W/channel! I too am a happy Kharma 1.0 owner and have briefly listened to the Utopias. Unfortunately ;-) I drive the Kharmas with SET's so I can't comment on the bass slam. IMO the Utopia's bass was slow and plodding, power delivery was complements of the VTL MB450's.

Magoo, at this level you gotta listen to them yourself.
I am very happy using only 30 watts. Thor TPA30 with the Kharma 1.0. I do think quality of watts are more important than the amount. ( in my opinion ) The Kharmas are my last stop for loudspeakers. I like them that much,but as the last guy said you gotta hear em to understand.I personally would only upgrade to another Kharma ,higher up the ladder.
The point I was trying to make was that the Kharmas do everything equally well ( great balance ) and I believe they are the most listenable speaker around. Good Luck