Hales System II Signature

i had a pair years ago. i think they are damn good. i still have not figured out the muse deal yet. i tryed two of them one with the 2s one with sound labs. i had the cards and every thing. i feel the muse subs have one note bass. the hales need good tubes ,and the sound great. they might miss a little in the bottom but everything has some compromise.

Interesting post Kirk930, what speakers do you have now?
I am a little suprised that the Muse was not a big improvement. The 2's might sound good with the Carver sub, I will probably try this. What amps did you like with them?
I am currently using a Rowland model 8 which I really like, but others have told me that a tube amp would be better.
Odd thing, I feel that the 2's are actually a better speaker than hales came out with in his later models. Heard them all except the T8. Still this is just MHO.

I just got a pair of VTL 100 watt monoblocks and they are a definite improvement over the Classe DR15 amps I had been using. I know that the speakers are wired with Cardas Golden cross but I'd be interested in hearing about your experiences with cabling. I think a Carver sub is definitely in the works next up (the Muse is much more expensive and requires that darn personality card).

daveyf i have both jm lab utopias and soun lab a-3s.the rowland is my favorite solid state. i like the earlier 7s and the newer gear.when were the 8s made? i love tube research, but they are a little steep for most people. i would say inexpensive tubes ; maybe the bat vk-60. or cj 11a. the bat has more stomp.

Actually Sknnyc, The sig's are wired with Cardas Hex5, they had not come out with the Golden 5 or Cross at the time of Sig production. This cable probably contibutes to their weakest link unfortunately. I use Highwire cable with good results, used to use Cardas Hex Golden 5 which was very poor in comparison-- fat, tubby bass with rolled off highs and smeared. The highwire I use is a later version called 700Ls series, which is part silver and part copper, with RFI blocks built in the cable. I use this from the phono to the speaker. Have recently heard the Silversmith cable, a slight step up, but what a price!!