Under rated speakers due to price....?


AND the resulting associated equipment?

I have a theory and am interested what others think about it. Is it possible that we underrate some speakers because they sell for a reasonable price and therefor listen to them with similar equipment?

I have a decent system consisting of the Rowland integrated amp, SCD-777ES and normally Aerial Model 6 speakers with a Storm III. I have frequently purchased many "cheap" speakers for second systems and I always try them in the good system just for kicks. Some sound OK, but some sound great. I recently tried a pair of less than $300 (Circuit City price) Polk RT35i speakers in the good system and could not believe how awesome they sounded for 1/10 the price of the Aerials. I could easily see some new high end company selling a similar sounding product for 5 times the price and getting it with happy customers.
I then thought about it - - how often do you hear about 2-500 dollar speakers being paired with a 10k system? Has anyone ever checked the associated equipment in Stereophile's class A speakers against the class B or C's? I didn't have the patience. But I bet as a rule that exotic speakers like Grand Utopias or Pipe Dreams are NOT listened to with low hi-end equipment like the lesser speakers are. If you pair some Vandersteen 2c's or B&W CDM-1's with Boulder amps, (and list the speakers at 10 grand) might people call them "some of the best?"
jimmy2615
Tweekerman, you do know there are sonic drawbacks to ESLs, right? ESLs are impressive in the own right. But, it's not like they are the Second Coming of Christ, or something.
Aroc, Plato just sent me a email, says "great dynamic capabilities does not rate as highly on your own list of priorities" very well said. no not as great an event as the Second Comimg but still a revelation.
Tweekerman: I'm not sure if that comment was directed at me or you. But anyway, FWIW, I have started re-evaluating planars for my own system in the past couple of weeks. They do do a lot of things well. And now that I have a separate room for the system, I would actually give a planar justice, in regards to room placement. I am especially interested in the maggie 3.6's. I'm glad to here the ML's work so well for you.
Aroc no the ML's don't work for me. the ML's, INNERSOUND's EROS, and the SOUNDLAB's are all heavy drinkers so you are forced to get big megawatt mamas. so if you want ESL sound you are limited as to amp you can use. maggies as well are famous drinkers. and i'v heard the 1.6's with a rogue amp and a big nad. was not impressed. however i've heard and just called a second QUAD dealer both told me not so with the QUAD 988. both said the QUAD was in another league (one dealer respected the sound lab) so to answer jimmy2615's question there are lots of exceptional electronics out there but very few good speakers. and thats why all these disscusions are supposed to help guide us toward what speaker is best for us. now comfedboy surely you can't disagree with that. ...Aroc from all that i've read the QUADs deserve research as well as a california lab called VMP deserves attention. never heard but the model RIBBON MONITOR 1 $1600 really looks nice.
I have a pair of KEF Q60 speakers that have a tremendous soundstage, imaging, and detail. I listen primarily to jazz and they do the job perfectly. A high price tag on the speakers does not mean they are going to sound better. That is a manufacturer and salesman psych! You can get a pair of Epos ES14 speakers that will blow some of the high end competition out of the water! I have had several high end speakers, Logans, B&W, Sonus Faber, Revel, and I discovered a few months back that the "tag" is not what you are listening to, the speaker is. It is a mental game played by audiophiles, primarily to impress their audiophile friends. The "name game". I have choked back laughter in audio stores listening to buyers spew out high end names and saying that this is better than that, yada yada, yada. If blind-folded and listening to speakers, you would be amazed at what your ears would pick. Unfortunately, there are many variables that interfere when listening to speakers. Amps, pre-amps, cd players, cables, are never the same as yours in the stores so the speakers take on a different sound. If you have a dealer that will let you take the speakers home to audition, that would be the ideal situation. I have dealer that has allowed me that luxury, and because of this I began to realize that you don't have to refinance your house to have good sounding speakers! So don't be limited by the price tag, just listen...
Michael