Anthonyn Cordesman on Edward Snowden

07-05-13: Rok2id
The two greatest examples of sticking our nose where it does not belong, are both World Wars.
First we provoke both Japan and Germany, then we help destroy both countries. Killing hundreds of thousands in the process. Mostly civilians!! Neither country ever did anything to 'US', to deserve our agression.

Interestingly, I don't recall reading about any European protest at the time.

I'm assuming that you were alive during ww2 by your last statement so take this with all due respect.
We formally declared war on Japan Dec. 8, 1941, the day after they bombed Pearl Harbor. Within days Germany and Italy declared war on the United States as signatories to the Axis Tripartite Pact.
I don't see how you can award the moral high ground to Hirohito, Mussolini and Hitler who were hell bent on world domination through any means necessary.

Zenblaster:

******I don't see how you can award the moral high ground to Hirohito, Mussolini and Hitler who were hell bent on world domination through any means necessary.*******

Was not speaking of 'moral highground', I was addressing American INTERVENTION and the world's reaction to it.

*****We formally declared war on Japan Dec. 8, 1941, the day after they bombed Pearl Harbor. Within days Germany and Italy declared war on the United States as signatories to the Axis Tripartite Pact.*******

I guess you forgot about American spport with war materiel for Great Britain and France. Both at war with Germany. I guess you didn't hear of the American Navy's attacks on German Submarines in the North Atlantic. Or the Navy escorting convoys heading for England. Or the American Volunteer Group(flying Tigers) fighting the Japanese in China. Ever hear of the American embargo against Japan concerning oil and scrap metal. ALL of this, and more, happened long before Pearl Harbor. Giving the UK, old US Navy ships etc....

****I'm assuming that you were alive during ww2 by your last statement so take this with all due respect.******

Actually I was, for some of it. Was not old enough to read. But if you read carefully, you will see that I said, I don't recall READING (now) about protests that would have happened during that time(WWll)

Of course, with all respect due you.

Cheers

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I, for one, am enjoying this thread. I think it wouldn't hurt a bit to have a section for such (political, etc.) debate here on the 'Gon. If others are opposed, they don't have to look.

Rok2id, your understanding of the causes of US involvement in WW2 is grossly inadequate.

My understanding of EVERYTHING is grossly inadequate. At least according to my family and friends. You have stated the obvious!

Cheers