MG1.6 crossover upgrade merits.


The MG1.6 has a simple crossover, two capacitors (one multi-element because of value) and an inductor. It is a good candidate for upgrade with top quality components, eg:musiccaps and aircoil inductor. These widgets aren't cheap! It will set me back about $200 to do one speaker, and I have three to do.

The components in the original crossover are not bad: Solen foil caps.

What is the opinion out there regarding whether such a crossover upgrade will yield improved performance. What will be different after the change? Has anyone done it?
eldartford
I had a pair of 1.6s for about a year before doing the crossover upgrades. I can tell you there is a substantial improvement to be had by doing this. Everything you like about your 1.6s is taken up a notch. The most noticeable thing is the improved power handling and bass response. It's a no brainer in my opinion.
Do it!! I did a full crossover over-haul on my 3.6's and it has yielded HUGE improvements. Here is a picture of them, and here is yet another angle. I have a whole lot more then a few hundred dollars into mine and it is worth it. As it stands my 3.6's outperform every 20R I have heard, I have not heard 20.1's set up properly so I won't make any statements, but I suspect this will outperform the 20.1's in many area's. The soundstage is even bigger, more depth, texture, much better dynamic's, lower freq. response(very noticeable), and things just sound natural(even compared to before, which I thought was really good). I also rewired the speakers internally and bypassed all of the factory termination. Search the Audio Asylum there is a lot of information over there on this.
Make an outboard crossover consisting of an 8ga copper inductor of the correct value as well as a multicap made up of Cresendo film and foil caps.These purchases can be made at North Creek Music systems. Hard wire and rigidly mount these to a non ferrous metal base. Any hardware should be non ferrous as well. Metal base should be drilled and threaded for 1.5 ap Audiopoints.Binding posts should be Cardas solid copper, any necessary internal wire should be Sonoran hookup, solder should be Riehl Copper solder...All these devices work well for me..Follow this pattern and the difference will be huge..Tom
OK, I done it. One of the three MG1.6 is completed, so I can evaluate (by comparison) what I get for about $200 per speaker.

First: the design. I decided to use a 10AWG air core inductor and Hovland capacitors. I chose to modify the crossover frequencies slightly. A 3.0 mH inductor gives me a 205 Hz LF break frequency (vs 3.5mH/180 Hz) and the capacitor is 3X7mfd = 21mfd (instead of 22mfd) which raises the HF break frequency from 1800Hz to 1900 Hz. My reasons for these changes are that I use a subwoofer (so the LF panel can play higher), and I wish to slightly reduce the midrange "gap" of the original design. The air coil was selected over foil because: (1) Magnepan does not recommend foil, and (2) foil was available only to 12AWG. The Hovland capacitors were selected because their diameter is about one inch, and they fit easily inside the original crossover cavity (after all the original stuff is removed).

I decided not to replace the original binding posts. They work well with bare wire connections which is what I use.
I did rewire the inputs in a way that gives the modified speakers a very "stock" appearance. There are three sets of posts: LF, HF, BOTH. I rewired the BOTH terminals so that they serve as the connection point for the externally mounted inductor. The inductor is mounted in a oak cover for the crossover cavity, and its wires are connected to what was originally the BOTH input terminals. This makes it real easy to "plug in" any different value or type of inductor. A jumper between these terminals would provide direct connection to the LF panel should I want to biamp.

Oh yes, how does it sound. Well it was immediately clear that something had changed, a lot, and for the good. Investigation revealed that the mod speaker is 6 dB louder. I would not have expected so great a change. After readjusting relative speaker volumes for proper balance further listening indicates that the sonic character is, to my ear, significantly improved. Of course, there has been no break-in as yet. I don't believe in break-in. But then it was not so long ago that I didn't believe that different types of capacitor affect sound. We shall see.
Just wait for them to break in! Your in for a real surprise, at just how much better they'll get. Most everyone laughes when I get excited about the level of improvement I claim was accomplished, and that very few speakers in the world can do what these are doing. The improvements are not subtle in the least and after break in it rounds all the rough edges out- you'll get even better bass, soundstage will just explode and become huge, dynamics(both micro and macro) will be startling at higher volumes. Even the inherent short comings of the speakers will become less noticeable- they will be more accurate at lower volumes, they will be able to play louder, dynamics become much better and you'll get a lot more bass and what you get will be more natural- its not going to have the slam of wilson's, they're not going to be able to recover low level details like soundlabs and they won't be able to throw sound at you like Avantgarde's- but they'll be a lot closer then they were before!

Good luck with the rest of your project.