Totem Hawks vs. Forest


Hi,

I am considering the above Totem speakers, used in a 14x19 room. I listen to mostly jazz and some vocals. If anyone has opinions, or has compared the two, I would like to here what you think.
also... The articles I have read on the forest from magazines say that they contain a sea's tweeter and either and ATI woofer or dynaudio. The forest that I have seen contains a MB tweeter, and a Hi-vi research woofer. Was there a change to the forest, from when it originally came out.
System: Classe 301
joule la100
audio research cd-2

Thanks!
JKW1

jkw1
I used to sell totem and own the Forests. All in all the Forest is a significantly better speaker. The drivers have been changed a couple times from introduction, they now use a seas tweeter and ATI mid-driver. Harmonics, rhythm, and overall sound is better then the model 1 IMO. The only speakers that best it are the Mani-2, Wind, and Shaman. You will need much more amplification and better upstream components to extract maximum performance out of the aforementioned. I have my Forest matched up with a Simaudio I-5. Check out my system. The Hawks are nice, but the Forests are a considerable step up IMO.
i am also a totem speaker fan. all of the speakers mentioned are very good in their respectable areas. I have listened to the forest and hawks with my equipment and have owned the model 1's for my audio room, arros (for my den), and have upgraded both of those to mani 2's. the mani's are by far the better speaker of the 4 i listed. they have all of the advantages of the model 1's with a true bottom end. the hawks are very nice but give up the lower octave compared to the forest and the forests are easier to drive. with your classe 301 (300 watts and a very nice amp), the mani's would be my pick using the totem or target 4 pillar stands filled with sand or lead shot. the mani's and model 1's need a good powerfull amp to get the most out of the speaker. i would pick the model 1's over the forest or hawks for a more musical disappearing sound but you will give up the lower octave.
good luck
The model 1 is no slouch, but if your musical preference varies like mine, the Forest is the more flexible speaker. I listen to a lot of classic rock, new age, celtic, electronic, classical, jazz and the Forest never ceases to impress me. The Model 1 is superb on vocals, jazz, and acousticÂ…of all the listening tests, demos, comparisons when selling these speakers the forest always seemed to pull ahead in all departments.
i owned a pair of forests for about a year, and now have a pair of mani 2 sig's, which i have had for about a year. to be honest, i liked the forests better. the mani 2 seems to get overwhelmed by dynamic passages of music, where the forest could pretty much hold it's own no matter what i threw at it. i listen to rock, pop, reggae, jazz, electronic and such. the forest was also easier to drive, and i think it produced better bass than the mani 2. in the $3000 / $4000 range i think the forest is the best speaker i have ever had in my system. in fact, i think a lot about trading in the mani2 sig's and getting another pair of forests. i would recommend the forest to you very highly.