Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil


I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

volleyguy
Brownsfan,
Glad that you purchased some WE16ga. I believe you will like it. Buy a couple meters of the Belden 8402as well. Very simpatico with the WE. I'm also very happy to see you pop up here and I truly hope your move, selling your house is going well.

I replaced the Mullard 5AR4 in the Coincident Dynamo with a NOS Mullard CV378 skinny coke bottle shaped rectifier. I like it very much. Better timbre, better bass, bigger stage, but most importantly, better tone across the board, lots of texture and tonal color, etc.
Rob,
The Mullard CV378 has the same positive effect in the Frankenstein as well. It made an excellent amplifier sound even better. This rectifier tube along with the Elrog 300b yields superlative tone. The Mullard is definitely worth its cost.
Charles,
The Mullard CV378 drops more voltage than the 5AR4. If your amp has a B+ of say 425v with the 5ar4 your B+ with the CV378 will drop to around 405v. In my amp the CV 378 makes the sound more relaxed more rich and luxurious. 5ar4 sounds more dynamic and it makes the amp sound more taught. I hear the sound breathing more naturally with the CV378. I switch them out quite often as it's fun to hear the amp react with the different rectifiers.
Charles/Jetrexpro,
I have a pair of High Wycomb Fat Bottle CV378 that I am saving for the big Franks...but In the meantime my Coincident Dynamo is really sounding superb, especially with the WE16ga and Belden 8402, RCA Red Base 5691, Shuguang Black Treasure 6CA7, and the Mullard skinny bottle CV378. Now, I can only imagine what Yazaki-san suggestions will bring to this already wonderful little amp. Rob
Rob, I am going to leave that 29 ft section of the WE 16 alone until I am sure what I want to do with it. It won't be enough to use with my dynamo based system, which will be in my living room in the new house. I could use it in my main system upstairs, but that will require cutting it into small lengths for double runs. I want to make sure of what I want to do with it before getting out the wire cutters.

Where did you get the Beldon? I do want to get at least one pair of these ICs on their way.