What is the sonic differences between Manley and..

i've had both in my house, and the vtl seemed to be less tubelike...in a good way, like mac.....the manley sounded rolled off in the upper regions and fat in the upper bass. the vtl was more linear, with a pretty solid bass.

Which models? Which year?

Since the split, both companies have been evolving but both can take pride in quality products. You just can't compare a 300B to the Snappers or those to the Wotan.

Ngjockey...just the "family" sound if possible? Perhaps....VTL 450 vs Manley 300???

Also if you can hear a VTL somehwere they are all supposed to sound the same just more power.So if there is a place where you can hear new or used VTL model unlike some other companies the sound is very consitent between models you just get more power if you got chance listen even to the 85 wat you'd get aidea of harmonics of big un's.Also seems to me at least in used amrket you can get more power for the dollar using VTL's while Manley is more expensive.
Chazzbo