Does "Fast" = "Detailed"?


I've noticed a few people discussing "fast" as an adjective for systems and components. A couple friends of mine use fast as an adjective they look for in amps and speakers (and other components including wire). I've noticed in my limited experience that those who like fast systems also tend to own/favor highly detailed systems. Recently, I looked at a member's system, which includes speakers built with ribbon tweeters used in conjunction with NuForce amps. He mentions liking a fast sounding system. Having heard both ribbon speakers and NuForce amps, I have an idea that this system is quite detailed.

Does "fast" equate to "detailed"?
tvad
Here's another question. How much does a soundstage such as one that might be described as being holographic with clear placement of instruments rendered in a lifelike soundfield weigh on speed, or detail? Could this clear delineation of spacing and placement be construed as detail since it adds information to our perception of the experience?

Interesting, because what I've tried to describe is what many people might experience in a SET based system. A system most people wouldn't consider fast. And that's why, I think Puremusic's inclusion of "dynamics" has great relevance. Is detail then as Puremusic mentions limited to the frequency domain?

Tvad, I think one area I'm in the distinct minority here is that I consider a system that has good PRaT to be fast. And also that a system with good PRaT need not be highly detailed.
Oh yeah, I think it is very possible to have warm, fast and detailed. Snivesguy is on to the recipe, SET amp, especially one that delivers high current and relatively extended treble response, matched with efficient speakers with well damped bass, finally well thought out acoustic treatments. Lively, engaging, very articulate and detailed is the sound. The only lacking with this kind of system may be the macro dynamics, but much of fast is found in the micro dynamics, IMO.
Here's a good exapmle. I have a JOR. The Jadis stock tubes are KT90's. I decided to replace them with the Electro Harmonix KT88's. The 88's were like sludge, boomy, its was like the music was comming from the speaker like paste in a "tube". The 90's are detailed, sharp, vivid =fast. Anything that is not "fast' I refer to as grainy/smokey/hazy/dull. All 3 components can be subject to this "slow/dull" sound. The cdp, amp, speaker xover all 3 can be wired funky and thus the sound goes around in circles , too many circles, before it makes its exit to your ears. A good quick amp, vdp. xover will channel the music most intelligently/musically.
Now do you have the ears to tell the differences? Most folks make claims they do.

Paul
does 'detailed'='forward'?.....as far as warm,fast and detailed, i default to the two out of three rule....any combination of the two but never all three.
Gunbei,
"Is detail then as Puremusic mentions limited to the frequency domain?"

No, detail (the noun) is not limited to the frequency domain. As I mentioned in the second paragraph in my post above, "It takes a high level of detail in all three domains..." However, as best I could tell, the adjective "detailed" refers in most (but not all) discusions to the frequency domain; namely, the level of resolution of the harmonic details (as opposed to temporal or amplitude details). Musical Nirvana (as well as the devil) is in all the details and how faithfully (or unfaithfully) they are reproduced.

Tvad, Thanks for your kind compliment.