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Used VAC Super? Moscode 401orBelles Reference 350?

I was recently at CES and i had a chance to hear the VAC phi amps and was absolutely floored from what i heard. Although i didnt get around to hearing all rooms the VAC/Wadia/Talon Thunderhawk room was amazing. There was somthing special about that set up. I'm not in the league to spend 20k on amps but if i had the money the Phi amps would certainly be on my short list and i never considered even buying a tube amp in the past. I just like the sound and character of the breath of life VAC puts out. Is anyone familiar with the sound of the VAC Super integrated compared to a new Moscode 401 or the Belles Reference 350 and even the TRL 225 D? I will be narrowing it down to these amps. One will end up in the system im going to be building.

Your feedback is highly appreciated.
Chaz
chaz801
tvad
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Apples to oranges. So much is different between them, the least of which is their power ratings. It's a fairly big leap to assume the VAC Avatar Super sounds anything like the VAC Phi monoblocks.

The Moscode, Belles and TRL will be affected by the preamplifier used.

The speakers you intend to use will be a significant factor to the answer.

I have owned a VAC Phi 110/110 and presently own a Moscode 401HR. I've never heard a Belles 350 nor a TRL 225.

Honestly, I don't know where to begin answering your question except that I would recommend choosing your loudspeakers before your amplifier.
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chaz801 OP
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Well the speakers on my short list are as follows and not in any order. Would love to have the Kharma's, Magico or Talon Thunderhawks but im not ready to step that high in price.

1. Salk Veracity HT3, QW or V3

2. Audes Excellence

3. Von Schweikert VR4jr

4. Sehring 701

5. DeVore 8's or 9

6. Audio Physic
jaybo
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just pick one, they are all great...that said, the moscode with a nice pre is pretty special with most speakers
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chaz801 OP
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Jaybo
What pre amp and speakers did you hear the Moscode with? What do you like about the amp as far as character most? If i step up a little on the amp, i have up to 2k for a good new or used pre amp.
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