Used VAC Super? Moscode 401orBelles Reference 350?


I was recently at CES and i had a chance to hear the VAC phi amps and was absolutely floored from what i heard. Although i didnt get around to hearing all rooms the VAC/Wadia/Talon Thunderhawk room was amazing. There was somthing special about that set up. I'm not in the league to spend 20k on amps but if i had the money the Phi amps would certainly be on my short list and i never considered even buying a tube amp in the past. I just like the sound and character of the breath of life VAC puts out. Is anyone familiar with the sound of the VAC Super integrated compared to a new Moscode 401 or the Belles Reference 350 and even the TRL 225 D? I will be narrowing it down to these amps. One will end up in the system im going to be building.

Your feedback is highly appreciated.
Chaz
chaz801
The First Sound Presence Deluxe II created the largest and deepest image I have heard in my system. However, it was also a bit too bright in the highs for my taste, although I never heard the First Sound combined with the Moscode. I was using a VAC Phi 110/110 at the time. I suspect the highs might have been sweeter with the Moscode as I now have it configured with Mullard 6922 and 12AU7 tubes. I wish I had tried Mullard 6922 tubes in the First Sound, but I never did.

The Lamm LL2 is the preamp I kept, and I did hear it with both the VAC and the Moscode. It makes music. Pure and simple. The image is not quite as large or as wide as the one created by the First Sound, but the Lamm makes you forget about analyzing the system, and it allows you to enjoy the music (as does the Moscode). After having gone through a period of uber resolution during which I was constantly obsessed about the system's sound, I am now instead enjoying listening to music, and for me that's what it's about.

I've never heard the Placette as far as I know. I seem to recall that perhaps Moscode used a Placette at an audio show I attended. I was not thrilled with the sound of the Moscode room at that show, but I heard enough potential to encourage me to give the Moscode a home audition after which I purchased the amp.
Art, I use 12AU7 in the outer positions, and I use RCA 6CG7 in the inner positions in the Moscode. I use a mix of 6922 and 12AU7 in the Lamm LL2 preamp. Sorry, I reread my earlier post and it is confusing. I wrote it too quickly.